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Jaco Pastorius' 'Havona'

Discussion in 'Recordings [BG]' started by Trevor Murphy, Oct 17, 2013.


  1. Trevor Murphy

    Trevor Murphy

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    I've been working on playing the transcription to his solo on Havona. Very difficult technically. I can play it slow, but I'd like to get up to tempo. Anyone have any tips on getting it up to speed?
    This is one of Jaco's most creative and inspiring solos
     
  2. David Jayne

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    It really is something. Keep playing it slowly until you can nail it all really cleanly. Then speed up a little, repeat. There's no other way.
     
  3. BassCliff

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    Hi,

    I applaud your effort. Yes, continue to practice it slowly with a metronome in order to stay steady. Gradually increase the tempo. For me, repitition is necessary to really nail a tune. Keep up the good work.

    I am also impressed that you properly used the posessive of Jaco's full name. You've had good English teachers. ;)


    Thank you for your indulgence,

    BassCliff
     
  4. dougjwray

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    Actually, I think the correct form would be "Pastorius's"... :cool:

    But, anyway... congratulations on tackling that solo-- it's amazing.
     
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  6. ArtechnikA

    ArtechnikA I endorsed a check once... Gold Supporting Member

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    No, it wouldn't...

    Much as I like most of Jaco, I am just not hearing the magick in Havona. But I will keep trying...
     
  7. lilcrate

    lilcrate Tortdaddy

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    While we are being proper, I hope you don't mind if I do a quick thread jack. Is it pronounced "Jayco" or "Jacko"?

    Good luck on mastering the solo!
     
  8. Ed P

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    With all due respect, "Pastorius'" is completely correct as well. I used it all the time when writing for several law firms. You can use either word, but this form eliminates the awkwardness of "Pastorius's", and is therefore preferred in most cases.
     
  9. ArtechnikA

    ArtechnikA I endorsed a check once... Gold Supporting Member

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    I have always believed it was 'Jahco'...
     
  10. lilcrate

    lilcrate Tortdaddy

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    That makes sense. Like taco. Thanks.
     
  11. dougjwray

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    That's correct. The nickname was derived from "jock"; when he was a kid, he was heavily into playing sports.
     
  12. dougjwray

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    Thanks, I stand corrected.
     
  13. Ed P

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    I'm sure there's plenty you could teach me. We're all in this groovin' life together! ;)
     
  14. jerry

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    I remember Jimmy Haslip talking about how Havona kicked his butt when he did the Jaco tribute. There's a YouTube clip of it somewhere.
     
  15. David Jayne

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    I come from the Jeff Berlin school of thought that says metronome is fine once you really have all the fingerings down. Until then, leave it off.
     
  16. tleebassist11

    tleebassist11 Taylor Lee

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    The key to getting that one to speed is without a doubt the fingerings. If there is a particular passage that is difficult for you, pm and I will let you know what fingerings I have written out for it. I have also found that taking each passage and analyzing which degree of pentatonic he starts and ends on very helpful to memorize his phrases.
     
  17. Trevor Murphy

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    dmusic and tleebassist
    Thank you for that. I will practice the fingerings first and nail them along with the modes. Then use the metronome. Seems like a good method for this type of solo
     
  18. Trevor Murphy

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    By the way do you have fingerings written out for it? I'd like to compare
     
  19. Smallmouth_Bass

    Smallmouth_Bass Supporting Member

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    Havona is probably my single favourite recording of Jaco. Good luck!
     
  20. JimK

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    ...there's something about "Jocko" Conlon (baseball umpire), too. This may have been mentioned in Milkowski's Jaco bio?
    There's an album where Jaco is credited as "Jocko" Pastorius...maybe early editions of Little Beaver's Party Down?
     
  21. factorplayer

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    The close of that solo, it's like 5ths or something against the open string pedal tone - genius.
     

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