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Lakland 44-94 / 4-94 confusion

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by TimBosby, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    OK this is bugging me. People in the past have asked "What's the difference between a Lakland 44-94 and a Lakland 4-94?" and have generally received the response "There is no 44-94. Lakland's first model was the 4-94."

    But then how can this be explained on Lakland's website?

    http://www.lakland.com/44-94.htm

    A typo?
    Or was the 4-94 renamed the 44-94 at some point?

    I'm really confused.

    Also, whatever it's called, I want one. :D
  2. Luke.Walton

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    You're right, the 4-94 and 44-94 are the same bass. In the Dan Lakin "era" of the company, it was called the 4-94, but since the Pirrucello brothers took over they changed the name to the 44-94 for the sake of uniformity with all the other bass models, bar the Decade, Hollowbody, and Darryl Jones signature.

    I don't know why they originally called it the 4-94, it disagrees with the minor OCD in me, haha.

    Hope that helps :)
  3. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    Thank you! Yeah, I agree, and I'm a teeny bit OCD myself :D
  4. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

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    The 55-94 had a 35-inch scale (the first 5) and five strings (the second 5). Maybe they called it the 4-94 because it had four strings and you could assume it had a 34-inch scale.
  5. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    Woah! Munjibunga, did you crack the code? Was 94 the year they were first introduced?

    Were 44-02s and 55-02s introduced in 2002?
  6. JimB52

    JimB52 User Gold Supporting Member

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    Yes, The 4-94 was first produced in 1994.

    Here is one from 1995. A few different features.

    Jack on top, no "Lakland" on bridge
    [​IMG]

    Metal neck plate, no separate battery holder
    [​IMG]

    Beautiful figured maple fretboard
    [​IMG]
  7. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

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    My recollection is that the second numbers were in reference to the pickups and their placement. There was a 55-63, which had jazz-style pickups in the '60s position, the 55-76 which had a single MM-style soapbar in the '76 Music Man position, and the 55-94 combining characteristics of both the MM and Jazz bass, the 94 probably a self-reference to the year it was introduced.

    Dunno about the -02s and -01s.
  8. JTE

    JTE Supporting Member

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    4-94 meant the original 4-string, introduced in '94 which also had a 34" scale. The 55-94 came in as "55" because it had both 5 strings and a 35" scale. The 4-76 was a 4-string with the single MM style pickup in the original StingRay location (the 4-94 has that PUP located so the two coils are closer to where a Jazz bass' PUPs were). So the basic nomenclature, though inconsistent, was that the 4-strings had a single "4" prefix and the last two digits were the year the model or its inspiration were from. The 5-strings were "55" for the number of strings and the scale length.

    After Dan Lakin sold his part of the company to his partners, they had to rename the signature models due to contractual language. Plus they introduced (at least for a short while) the option to get a 4-string with a 35" scale and the 5-strings in 34" scale. So, because they had to rename a bunch of models, and needed to distinguish between a 35" four-string, they introduced the current system.

    One of the first digits tells you the scale, the other tells you the number of strings. The last two digits kinda maintain the "initial year" idea. A 44-60 is the 4-string 34" scale based on Joe Osborn's 1960 Fender Jazz. A 44-64 (?) is the 4-string 34" scale based on Bob Glaub's '64 Precision. So at one time you could order a 45-60 (or was it 54-60) to get a 4-string 35" scale Jazz bass style.

    Bottom line is that the 44-94 and the 4-94 are the same for most years. I call my two "4-94" because that's what they were when I bought them and when they were made.

    John
  9. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    Heheh. So, the bottom line is, Lakland makes great basses that are difficult to search for on internet forums :D

    Now who has a 4-94 (or 44-94) laying around that they want to sell me....? (or better yet trade for my '78 Jazz?) :hyper::help::bassist:
  10. basspraiser

    basspraiser Jammin for the Lamb! Supporting Member

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    LOVE them early ones!!!

    GREAT pictures...thanks for sharing....

  11. basspraiser

    basspraiser Jammin for the Lamb! Supporting Member

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    yes...EXCEPT that that the -01 and -02 were BOTH introduced in 2002...just needed a way to tell them apart.

    The -94s were developed in 1994

    a few other "codes"

    the 44/55-60 - J with 60s pickup placement
    55-69 - year of Testuyu's birth
    44/55-64 - similar to 64 Fender P
    55-07 - began development in 2007 (sadly no longer made)
    44-51 - similar body contour as a '51 Fender P (no 55-51 YET!)
    Decade...designed at Lakland's 10 year anniversary
  12. basspraiser

    basspraiser Jammin for the Lamb! Supporting Member

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    I was WONDERING if this is where the thread was going...:eyebrow:

    have fun finding one....(I am not being sarcastic.....looking for a new bass is always fun!)...they do pop up with frequency...
  13. JTE

    JTE Supporting Member

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    Sorry- I was a Fender dealer from '77 through '88, and I'd NEVER let go of either of my Deluxe 4-94s, especially for a '78 Fender..

    John
  14. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    Yeah, a few out there right now but I'm a bit picky about color and/or woods.
  15. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

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    This one's a '96. It was my first high-end bass. It now has a Pope Flex Core preamp and Nordstrand pickups.

    [​IMG]
  16. basspraiser

    basspraiser Jammin for the Lamb! Supporting Member

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    really nice Munji!!!
  17. landru64

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    I was the original owner of this bass. I bought it from bob Hynoski at the five towns college guitar show in that year. He was a passionate evangelist for lakland at the time. Sweet! I want it back! :)

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