M9/M13 Tricks

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by cybersnyder, Feb 8, 2010.


  1. cybersnyder

    cybersnyder Always groove.... Gold Supporting Member

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    I thought I'd start a thread for trick and tips that you've discovered with the Line 6 M9/M13.

    I'll start off with one that I've discovered. I call it Viagra because it makes your tone bigger. (2.x firmware required)

    Smart Harmony, pitch shift set to "None"
     
  2. cheapbasslovin

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    I'm going to bump this because I want to hear some of these tricks. I am also going to add that when (not if) I finally get my M13 I will be combining it with an LS-2esque blender with loop A running from the input to the fx send and loop B running from the fx return to the output. This should allow me to have the most versatile rig ever in the history of ever.
     
  3. JohnDavisNYC

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    hmmm... the looper is really just a great sampler in disguise?

    john
     
  4. stflbn

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    Not necessarily a trick, but easily missed.

    Each scene has it's own saved settings for Gate, Expression/Volume pedal control, etc. So one scene can have fx rows 1, 2, 3 react to expression, and another may only have 1 or 1 & 2.
     
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  6. bgmww

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    suscribed. I´ll test all the tricks as sonn as my M13 arrives. Can´t wait.
     
  7. judas jedermann

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    I am not sure if these are tricks but they can be quite useful. :bassist:

    Octoverb and Particle verb do nice Space station imitations.

    Scene for Pog:
    1. Synth-O-Matic: waveform 1, Freq: 3/4, Q: zero, pitch: all the way up for brighter organ, half the way for heavier tones, mix half the way,
    2. Smart harmony: Major scale, 5th up, blend: 1/2 or less,
    3. Smart harmony: Major scale, octave up, blend: 1/4,
    4.(in M13) Analog chorus / Rotary drum for leslie vibe or Pitch glide (octave down) for more low end.

    Looper: You can fade in or fade out recorded loops with expression pedal.
     
  8. bassbmx

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    These are all really cool tips! Such an exciting pedal to explore and I still haven't even upgraded the firmware.
     
  9. p58

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    subscribed. maybe it would be cool to share not only the trics, but also settings of basic effects and of course interesting combinations. i will write down my setting of some effects when I come home.

    this topic has big potential. unit is amazing and its abilities can be explored way better when users share their tips/settings :)
     
  10. stflbn

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    The problem that comes into play with sharing settings is that many things are reliant on the signal strength coming in and how that triggers the effect. Personally I use a tiny boost pedal velcro'd to the right side of my M13 to balance levels between my different basses to keep my signals very similar.
     
  11. cybersnyder

    cybersnyder Always groove.... Gold Supporting Member

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    Where did you get the boost?
     
  12. Jehos

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    If you run a M9/M13 in a side chain instead of directly in your signal path, be careful with the mix knobs. Effects like Particle Verb with the mix turned all the way up send only the reverb signal, none of your original bass. If you put a delay after the particle verb, you'll confuse yourself. :)

    Be very careful when you buy an M9. The thought will occur to you that if you bought a 2nd M9 you could run one in front of your amp and one in the side chain and have some serious control over your effects. Don't listen to that thought, you'll be out almost a grand. :)

    Also, buy the M-Audio midi to USB cable. The cheaper ones don't always work. Also, you can beg at your local Guitar Center and they might update it for you, especially if you bought from them. It'll save you $40.
     
  13. stflbn

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    cheapo on ebay actually... and I'm really happy with it. Can't recall the name of it... I posted somewhere here concerning it when I was looking.


    Edit: here it is...

    CheeseBlocks small wonder. http://www.cheeseblockseffects.com/Small_Wonder_Mini_Booster.html Mine was an earlier version of this, but I think I got it for $50 on ebay.
     
  14. bassman1185

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    Stuff like this is totally NOT helping my GAS for an M9.
     
  15. Jehos

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    Normally I try not to encourage GAS in others, but the M9 really is that good. If there are a couple effects you *know* you want, it's pretty easy to justify the price and you end up with a lot of cool stuff for free. :)
     
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    Again... NOT HELPING. :D

    The one thing holding me back is the limit of 3 effects at one time (especially since the noise gate and compression would each count. Also, it doesn't seem like you can run effects in parallel, which has become sort of an important part of my sound. The M13 seems like it is closer to what I want (mainly for the effects loop), but it is bigger, more complicated and more expensive.

    Maybe someday...
     
  18. gus1894

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    I don't see myself using more than 3 effects simultaneously (mostly 1 or 2) so this is not an issue with me. I love the way the M9 is set up - now if I could press the right patch and only that one!

    If you're looking for switchs, mods, your basic options for the M9 or M13 beyond the unit itself, check out:
    http://this1smyne.com/pedals.html

    Talk to Dan - nice guy and he knows his stuff.
     
  19. Jehos

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    Noise gate doesn't (necessarily) count, compressor does.

    The M9 has a "global" noise gate that is applied after all the effects, and can vary by scene (meaning each scene gets its own settings). It doesn't count as one of the three effects. You really get 5 "effects" at a time, but one of them is always a noise gate and one is always a looper. The other 3 you can set to whatever you want (including other noise gates).

    That was what sold me.

    And true, you can't put effects in parallel unless you bought two M9s. Not that there's anything *wrong* with that. :)
     
  20. stflbn

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    Correct, and that's what pushed me to trade the M9 I bought new for a used M13 here on talkbass. Also, if you would like a plain volume pedal it also takes a slot.

    Personally, I've gone to just keeping some mild Noise Gate running on each scene via each scenes preferences so it doesn't take a slot.
     
  21. ryansalmond

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    I HAD NO IDEA! I thought preferences were global.
    You might have just saved me from sending my m9 to an out of city service centre. Thank you.
     

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