I have never been one who could play well with a detuned E string, I always lost my place. I really like fives because I play below E a lot, which makes standard fours of limited value to me. It just so happens that the best bass I currently own is a USA Peavey Millennium four that I gave up trying to sell. This bass has a 35" scale and it is not floppy when tuned down a whole step, so I have tuned it DGCF today. I have to admit, it sounded good when I played Fred Hammond's "Let The Praise Begin." I miss the Db and C, but until I get a better five with a modern vibe or I get my Affinity shielded, I think I will have fun with my detuned Millennium.