MJS Custom Pickups from Canada Eh?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by CPplaysBASS, Apr 5, 2012.


  1. CPplaysBASS

    CPplaysBASS Gold Supporting Member

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    I posted about my experience with MJS pickups a couple of weeks ago, when I had a Jazz bridge pickup installed in my P-Bass. But I posted in the basses forum instead this one by mistake. Have a legitimate update though, replacing the original P-Bass pickup as well!

    I recently picked up a used 2010 MIA P-Bass with maple fingerboard. Pretty much redundant in my collection given what I already had (two other P-basses in my collection of six basses in total) … but couldn't resist!

    I had previously given some thought to adding a Jazz pickup to one of my other P-Basses for some extra bite when needed. I just love my other P-Basses too much to customize them. This newest addition to my collection instantly become my guinea pig bass.

    I’ve installed pickups successfully before, but there’s no way I’m going to take a router to any piece of wood myself, so the search was on for a luthier who could help with the routing. Meanwhile, I did lots of reading and searching on Seymour Duncan, Dimarzio, Lollar, Bartolini, etc., websites trying to figure out what Jazz pickup would be best. I knew I wanted relatively low output for treble and “bite”.

    Coincidentally (or was it fate?), the guitarist that had just joined my band the week before was good friends with a luthier just 10 minutes down the road from me. His true passion though is making custom pickups. This is where it really got fun.

    The maker – MJS Custom Guitars and Pickups (MJS Custom Guitars & Pickups: Home Page) – loaned me a bass with pickups that he considers his “reference” pickups so I could try it out with my band. I could then tell him what I was looking for in relation to the sound of those pickups. That part was easy … I wanted to keep his reference bass. The growl was incredible. No hum-cancelling here … true single coil tone, no compromise. I’ll accept some hum for a tone like that (and the hum is pretty much negligible).

    Must say that was such a crucial step too since when I first tried the bass at home, I wasn't sure I was that in love with the tone at all. Having the ability to hear the pickups at band practice made all the difference in the world. Cut through and could hear notes so clearly, but still bassy ... just not boomy.

    Then I sat at his place for an hour, playing bass and really honing in on what I wanted. Then he went to work making a pickup to match my existing P-bass pickup with the characteristics I was looking for. His reference bridge pickup is apparently obscenely low output … but sounded great. My P-Bass pickup reading was something like 10.5k (I think), and the Jazz pickup he wound to match is 9.2k.

    I decided to keep things simple. V/V/T controls … no worries of bleed, or extra resistance impacting the P-Bass tone, or the so called V/V/T syndrome. The bass required extra routing for the pot, but otherwise no issues.

    The routing job for the bridge pickup is completely flawless.

    After two weeks, I also replaced the original P-bass pickup. New pickup is slightly lower output than the original, but incredible "growl" while still sounding deep like a P-Bass should with the bridge pickup completely rolled off.

    Turning the Jazz pickup all the way up really focusses the tone … brighter, tighter and cuts nicely. My fave setting is having the P-Bass pickup at 75% and the Jazz on full.

    Where I get the most flexibility in tone is keeping the Jazz on full and rolling back the P pickup (lots of variations of great tones in there ... more than I require). The Jazz pickup on its own is very good and useable although not quite the tone for me personally – which is not what I got the pickup for. It’s there specifically to add presence with both pickups on.

    As far as I’m concerned, it’s perfect and this bass is my new #1.

    Cosmetically, I think it looks cooler with the Jazz style knobs and old fashioned "tug bar". Just a “vibe” thing I like

    I must say I'm pretty much a bass hack, but it was very cool to go through such a detailed process to create a pickup just for "me".

    Below is the “before” and “after” pics … same bass, but the second one was taken under brighter lights that really brought out the “orange” in the burst!

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  2. blindrabbit

    blindrabbit Supporting Member

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    I've had my eye on these pickups for a while now. They are not cheap though, and I wasn't able to find a single review of them. So, this is good to read.

    Can you share any other information on what the tone is like? Any comparisons that you can make?
  3. CPplaysBASS

    CPplaysBASS Gold Supporting Member

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    The very first thought that popped in my head was "Geddy Lee" ... but actually more like his older Rickenbacker tone. Lots of bite. The Farewell to Kings album ... that's the tone of the bridge Jazz pickup right there.

    The P-Bass pickup ... on it's own, it's more vibrant that the original pickup I had. More focussed, punchier. I wasn't unhappy with the original ... but could never go back to it now that I know what I was missing.

    It was quite a head turner for me as I was always about warmer tones ... but getting frustrated about being lost in the mix when playing live with the band and compensating by increasing my volume which just added boominess and pissed everyone off. Last band practice, I played at a lower volume overall, but sat in the mix nicely. Sitting at home, you might think "too bright!" ... live, you'll be thinking "hey, I can actually hear what I'm playing." Clarity.

    I paid $159 for the Jazz and $169 for the P-bass pickup, so not cheap, but great value in my opinion with the attention to detail with every aspect of the pickups. And you can't get more custom than having someone who doesn't wind them until he talks to you directly.
  4. CPplaysBASS

    CPplaysBASS Gold Supporting Member

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    I think he's going to have a video on his website up soon with someone demo-ing the Jazz pickups in a Squier bass that I also played when trying to figure out what I wanted. I don't play slap style, but I could see slappers loving the crispness of these pickups.

    I don't have the experience of other custom makers like Lollar ... just loved the fact of finding someone in Canada, and just down the street from me was a super-bonus.
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  6. blindrabbit

    blindrabbit Supporting Member

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    Thanks, very helpful! I always prefer using smaller/custom/boutique makers on all fronts, and especially so when they are Canadian! We've got so many amazing, world-class brands in Canada - Traynor, Empress, Diamond, Dr. Scientist, Godin...I could go on... - it only makes sense that we would also have a fantastic pickup maker as well!

    Hopefully he'll get those clips up. Even better would be to have others who have used the pickups chime in.
  7. CPplaysBASS

    CPplaysBASS Gold Supporting Member

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    From what I understand, up to this point his pickups have mostly been made for high-end custom guitar makers - made to specs of whoever was buying a specific guitar (or bass) - and is really just starting to branch out with direct to customer sales. So I'd be surprised if many on TB have tried them yet ... definitely happy to spread the word though. Nice to get on the train early ... no long wait times :)
  8. Scotch11

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    Thanks for sharing all this. I just spoke to "Smitty" and am getting the same work done to my 2011 P-Bass. I think I will keep the stock P-pickup in it though... Cant decide whether or not I should get exposed poles to match the existing pickup or stick with the solid cover... Any recommendations/opinions?

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