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Myrtle, Buckeye, what are these?

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by ChuckTrucks, Nov 8, 2012.


  1. ChuckTrucks

    ChuckTrucks

    Jul 28, 2012
    I thought I knew about most tone woods but what the heck is myrtle and buckeye?

    Myrtle looks like maple.

    Buckeye looks like???

    I try to get info on both of them and I end up with Myrtle Beach and Ohio State related material.
     
  2. Musiclogic

    Musiclogic

    Aug 6, 2005
    Southwest Michigan
    Disclosures:
    Owner/Builder: HJC Customs USA, The Cool Lute, C G O
    Buckeye is a Western US Burl, and has no tonal properties, only decorative.

    Myrtle is usually found in Oregon and is a member of the Laurel Family. You Ocassionally see it used on Acoustics where it may have a tonal property.
     
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  4. miziomix

    miziomix Über on my mind

    Sep 28, 2009
    Milan, Kuala Lumpur
    And they are both gorgeous :)
     
  5. O-H !



    Buckeye Reference :D
     
  6. Musiclogic

    Musiclogic

    Aug 6, 2005
    Southwest Michigan
    Disclosures:
    Owner/Builder: HJC Customs USA, The Cool Lute, C G O
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder Maurizio...LMFAO
     
  7. cthomas5200

    cthomas5200 Supporting Member

    Jun 27, 2011
    Atlanta, GA
    I O!
     
  8. miziomix

    miziomix Über on my mind

    Sep 28, 2009
    Milan, Kuala Lumpur
    LOL... true. I am shamelessly biased :D
     
  9. ChuckTrucks

    ChuckTrucks

    Jul 28, 2012
    What does no tonal properties mean? Does it sound neutral?

    For example the buckeye top on that Alembic or a Myrtle top on a Roscoe or something. Does the body/neck wood dominate the sound and the top is just there for cosmetics without the idea of adding something to the tone like with a maple or bubinga top?
     
  10. jmac

    jmac

    May 23, 2007
    Horsham, Pa
    I'm guessing that it's just used as a top, you know for decoration.
     
  11. Musiclogic

    Musiclogic

    Aug 6, 2005
    Southwest Michigan
    Disclosures:
    Owner/Builder: HJC Customs USA, The Cool Lute, C G O
    Just aesthetics. Buckeye is about as dense as Cork....LOL. so if you imagine putting a Cork top on your instrument you can develop an idea of what properties it adds besides look.

    I really do not feel like beginning the whole "solidbody tonewood" exercise in conjecture again. It's been done here too many times.
     
  12. Beej

    Beej

    Feb 10, 2007
    Victoria, BC
    Musiclogic speaketh the truth. Esp in regards to the tonewoods debacle...
     
  13. bThumper38

    bThumper38 brian ebert Supporting Member

    Just curious, Is Burl Maple similar, or is that a pretty solid piece of wood? thanks
     
  14. gilmour

    gilmour

    Jan 7, 2008
    Berkshire, UK
    My ACG has a Myrtle top (figured, not a burl), looks great - as for tonal properties, no idea. It's a little darker and maybe greener than maple. Alan has said in the past that he really likes working with it.

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    More pics here.
     
  15. Musiclogic

    Musiclogic

    Aug 6, 2005
    Southwest Michigan
    Disclosures:
    Owner/Builder: HJC Customs USA, The Cool Lute, C G O
    Maple Burls like the bass in my Avatar is much more solid than Buckeye. Buckeye always seems like rotted burl to me. It's very soft and exceptionally soft.
     
  16. ChuckTrucks

    ChuckTrucks

    Jul 28, 2012
    Well I didnt mean to upset anyone or start anything, I just had a couple of questions.

    I used to keep up with things like this when I was into custom guitars but the craziest I ever went was walnut or burl maple (which I was always lead to believe was not much different from flamed or quilted maple). Who knows.
     
  17. HaMMerHeD

    HaMMerHeD Supporting Member

    May 20, 2005
    Norman, OK
    I have to say, I really strongly dislike the look of buckeye. It looks like vomit to me, or alternatively, it looks like what I sacrifice to the porcelain god after eating some really good Mexican food.
     
  18. Musiclogic

    Musiclogic

    Aug 6, 2005
    Southwest Michigan
    Disclosures:
    Owner/Builder: HJC Customs USA, The Cool Lute, C G O
    LMFAO. Upset anyone....probably not...LOL

    Burl Maple is nowhere near as solid or hard as a curly or quilted. Burls are very low structure and porous. Some of us here ave done some work with really out there stuff.

    IT's just when it starts into tonal properties of solidbodied guitars, there are some vastly differing opinions so we try to quash the slightest mention of such things before the wars start back up...LMAO
     
  19. Musiclogic

    Musiclogic

    Aug 6, 2005
    Southwest Michigan
    Disclosures:
    Owner/Builder: HJC Customs USA, The Cool Lute, C G O
    LMAO Mark, a bit graphic, but we are of similar opinion. Not a fan of Buckeye for the most part either, but I have seen a few cool pieces.
     
  20. Rip Topaz

    Rip Topaz

    Aug 12, 2005
    Willow Street, PA
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    Beta tester for Positive Grid
    Myrtle is a great wood to work with.

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