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Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by floridagatorfan, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. floridagatorfan

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    on an E minor scale what note would be the 4th minor?
  2. floridagatorfan

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    penatonic e minor scale i should say
  3. LayDownABoogie

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    Wording of the question is strange....

    In E minor the 4th is A. It isn't called a minor 4th, it is a perfect 4th. (Most likely the answer to your question).

    Unless your after the fourth note in an E minor pentatonic scale, which is B.
  4. Rockin Mike

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    Call me crazy, but don't people perceive a pentatonic scale as a variant of a minor scale?

    To my ear the 4th of a scale is a perfect 4th above the tonic. To my ear the 4 in a pentatonic scale is A, and the B sounds like the 5th.

    For example in E pentatonic you don't play the tonic chord (Em) with E,A,D (the first, third and fifth notes counting strictly)... it's still E,G,B.
  5. Rockin Mike

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    A note is neither major or minor. Intervals, chords and scales can be major or minor.

    For any scale with E as the tonic center (E major, E minor, E pentatonic) the 4th note is A.
    In a minor scale the 4th chord (generally referred to as the "iv chord") is a minor chord made up of A,C,E.
    In E pentatonic you'd use that A,C,E chord if you wanted to play an iv chord.
  6. MalcolmAmos

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    Yes, that is the way I see it, however, is the question about the 4th note in the scale or the 4th scale degree in the pentatonic scale?
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    Major pentatonic = R-2-3-5-6
    Minor pentatonic = R-b3-4-5-b7
  7. MarkMgibson

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    Nah, you're not crazy, that's how I see them. The same as a major pentatonic is just a variant of the major scale.

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