No more Korean Warwicks???

Discussion in 'Warwick Basses' started by Matthew_84, Mar 16, 2014.


  1. Matthew_84

    Matthew_84

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    I just went on Warwick's website, and there's no more Basses from Korea. It seems that the Pro Series are listed as "Crafted in Germany. Assembled in China", and it shows all of the discontinued Korean basses.

    It also seems that there's a bunch more Rockbass Artist Signature models, such as the Steve Bailey, P-Nut, and Jack Bruce, but models like the Stuart Zender seem to be discontinued for now.

    The price sheet doesn't seem to have been updated yet though. I'm curious if the German/Chinese models are cheaper than the Koreans were. As I'm not sure now what's superior about the Pro Series line over the Rockbass line other than woods. Labour costs should be lower.

    I was going to order a Rockbass Corvette 6-string tomorrow, but now I'm curious if I can afford the Pro Series Streamer LX... I hope more information about this surfaces quickly.
  2. Schilling

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    Capitalism in a world wide market is amazing.
    It's cheaper to finish all parts in germany, then haul them all the way to china and back just for setting some screws, maybe a little soldering and putting on strings?

    I wasn't able to find any new information you don't have yet. But if the parts are built in Germany, i'd bet they won't become cheaper.
  3. Matthew_84

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    When Warwick revamped the Rockbass line several years ago, they advertised that their parts (at least pickups, electronics and hardware) were from Germany anyway, so I'm not sure what the difference is.

    In my opinion, the chinese Pro Series basses should be cheaper, but we'll see.
  4. Warwiccan

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    This is some frightening news.. Im sending my Korean Corvette out today or tomorrow for replacement... I wonder where the new one will be coming from? I would never own any instrument that says "made in china" just cant...
  5. Goatrope

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    I'm not a fan of "lower lines" from any manufacturer but understand the model. Use the lower lines to finance the higher lines. I doubt retail will see a price reduction.
  6. Matthew_84

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    Truthfully, I've owned several of the revamped Rockbass models because I can't afford or justify the expense of a German made one, despite how much I'd love to own one. Also, I believe the Rockbass construction has been very good, both of my Rockbass models were built better than my American Fender P.

    I was planning on two upcoming purchases of ones out of Korea, because I can't get a 6-string Streamer or Thumb in the Rockbass line. The extra price was expected due to being made in a different country with different labour laws. I didn't mind it as I felt the construction would be a little higher, but I do not expect any difference in quality with the Chinese Pro Series or Rockbass line. Just different woods involved. If there isn't a drop in price, I really can't justify the extra expense for the Pro Series models, and wouldn't purchase them.
  7. NLBassist

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    Looks like they now include a gig bag... but what exactly does "Crafted in Germany" mean?
  8. NLBassist

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    They no longer use the bronze frets on the new ones; that stinks.
  9. Matthew_84

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    Well, I don't know what's going on now.

    I went back to the Warwick website and it seems like the Korean stuff is back up, but with the added Pro Series line coming out of China.

    Possibly when they added the "Crafted in Germany - Assembled in China" line, they mixed up and threw the Korean stuff into the discontinued section.

    Not sure which one would be pricier. It looks like the Korean Streamer and Thumb still have maple necks, but the WGPS line (the new one) has ovangkol necks, and they added the Streamer CV here as well.

    Here's a few threads from the Warwick Forum where people are talking about this too:

    New!!! & discontinued!!!

    Speculation: Pro Series CV?
  10. NLBassist

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    I noticed they have Korean back after you enter the product page, but when you click on a body shape, it no longer lists Korean as an option.

    Looks to me like it's on its way out.
  11. Garey

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    The new line is WGPS - Warwick German Pro Series. They are crafted in Germany using all of the technology found on the German basses, but are lacquered and assembled in China. This means they use German wood, German machining, IFT, etc - but get sanded, painted, and assembled at their plant in China. I saw a few at NAMM, and the quality is excellent.
  12. NLBassist

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    They don't have IFT listed as a feature on their site. They also use nickel silver frets on them.
  13. Garey

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    Hmmm....I was with the crew at NAMM during their new product training meeting and could've sworn that they used IFT as well.

    edit: Actually, it does for some models - and is listed on their website under Specifications. The Framus Wolf Hoffman, the Streamer CV...
  14. Garey

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    FWIW, the IFT machine has 6 different fret wires spooled and ready to install.
  15. Matthew_84

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    Thanks for the clarification Garey.

    Last time I checked, I didn't see a price lists for these on the warwick site yet. Do you know if their list price will be lower or higher than the Korean Pro Series?

    I know there's some different models available, but there's a Streamer LX in both lines, for a 6-string which line would cost more?

    Thanks,
  16. NLBassist

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    I see the IFT for the Streamer CV. It also has the illuminated side dots as well as some other German only features.

    Wish the rest of them would have those features. Maybe, since there been no announcements and it appears that the site change came prematurely, the details may still change.

    I'm in the market for a 4-string streamer and I'd love to see one with bronze frets and an ovangkol neck.
  17. tobias3469

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    Ovangkol necks with Nickle frets... wow that's going to make things confusing..

    based on the fact that they're listed just above the Korean series - my guess is they're going to be at a higher price point.

    I'll never buy a warwick that doesn't have the bell bronze frets. I've always thought that they were a big contributor to the warwick tone and playability.
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2014

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