No tone pot?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by fourstringbliss, Nov 13, 2012.


  1. fourstringbliss

    fourstringbliss Supporting Member

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    I never mess with the tone pot on my Jazz bass, so I'm wondering what would happen if I take it out. The pot is 500k and the cap is 0.047uf, but I always leave it dimed - isn't that like having no tone pot?
  2. iiipopes

    iiipopes Supporting Member

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    No. There is still some loading going on. If you remove it, it will probably take on a harsh edge to the tone.
  3. elgecko

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  4. gunlak

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    did that to my P/J, loved it.

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  6. line6man

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    With 500k, it tends not to be noticeable with the average pickup impedance. If that becomes an issue, however, you just replace the pot with a fixed resistor.
  7. iiipopes

    iiipopes Supporting Member

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    Well, yes, at 500k it's already brighter, so if the OP likes the tone, then removing it altogether will be a marginal step towards bright/harsh instead of the universe of change if the tone control was the stock 250kohm pot.

    Another alternative to keep the tone control if necessary is to go to a 1 meg linear taper pot first before tossing out the tone control completely.
  8. fourstringbliss

    fourstringbliss Supporting Member

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    What I'm debating about it whether to install a push/pull pot for parallel/series wiring or to ditch the tone control (which I never use) and replace it with an on/on parallel/series switch. I just don't know whether I want to have to pull a knob to switch the mode.
  9. 4001

    4001

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    No tone pots in my Jazz Basses.
  10. iiipopes

    iiipopes Supporting Member

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    I have tinkered with guitar electronics for over 35 years. I have found that a good push-pull control is easy to operate, doesn't affect the cosmetics of the instrument, and keeps the versatility. Plus, it is a positive control, and you can "grab and go" and not be distracted with a little flip switch trying to find it or make sure it's in the right position in the middle of a song or set.

    I would suggest that changing out the tone control with a push-pull pot/switch with the usual DPDT 6 lugs is the best way to get what you're after: retaining the tone control while increasing the versatility of the bass with the series/parallel.

    Here's a schematic, which, when engaged sends the series position to the neck volume knob for easy reach. It is drawn separately from the tone control, but the wiring is the same with a push-pull as part of the tone control pot as it is with a separate switch:

    http://www.lordgoogle.com/bass/s1_mod/

    And here's a kit ready to go:

    http://www.guitar-mod.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=WKJB116&Category_Code=BSK2
  11. fourstringbliss

    fourstringbliss Supporting Member

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    Thanks! I'll stick with this way of doing it.
  12. iiipopes

    iiipopes Supporting Member

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    You're welcome!
  13. Angel LaHash

    Angel LaHash

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    If you dont touch the TONE CONTROL at all .. you could take it out and replace it
    Measure the Resistance from the TOne Pot to the the Leg with CAP/Earth on it and just put in a resistor of that value with the cap
    its just a filter.. Tone is always doing some thing

    Dam Line6Man got there before me

    dam im too late to say any thing .. I got lots fo Push Pull im using on strats at the moment to flip the coils
    editing the P-bass to change the Tone controls
    also would like to add a Jazz PickUP on it as well
    so will need to have a selector OMG this is getting complex with the space i got
    Ill draw the plan out first then take over teh world

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