Spent some time today with the new Orange cabs. Music store just got the new 210 and 410 cabs. To make sure that I limited the variables, I brought my own equipment to test. I used the following: 1. Sadowsky NYC 5 string, Spector 5 string, Aguilar DB680 with symetrix 501 compressor thru the effects loop powered by a stewart power 1.6. First of all the cabs are VERY COMPACT. The 210 was probably the size of the EA VL108 and the 410 was probaby close in size to a SWR goliath Jr. Not sure of the weight but I would put the 210 @ around 30lbs and the 410 around 50. Both have ports that are probably 3 inches across the cab. One thing that was missing (to me anyway)is that it only has speakon connectors (2), no quarter inch connections. At this time (according to the website), both cabs are only available at 8 ohms. I'm not exactly clear on the technology but 1 speaker (or pair) are mounted facing forward and the other(s) are mounted backwards (or down?). Each speaker (or set) is within its own compartment within the box. The sound from the non-visible speakers is coming thru the port at the bottom of the cabinet. With the 410 it is very old school sounding. Neither cabinet does not have a tweeter. My guess is in keeping with the Orange vibe, they wanted it to have a more vintage sound. It definitely does that really well. For fingerstyle, it has a nice old school feel. Think old ampeg or acoustic cab. For slap styles not the most articulate cab. This cab seemed to have a lot of growl and grind. With the Spector, the tonepump really sounded hifi. Still didn't sound great for slap but the definition was great. For a setting where you would want more edge and grind this could be a great cab. Didn't get the big bottom you get from standard 410. The B string was clear but didn't really speak as well as many other 410s. Overall, in a more traditional setting or using tubes this could be a great cab. For the slapper or the hifi stylist, this is not your cab. Volume was another issue, I didn't feel I got the volume from this cab, that I could get out of a regular 410. In comparison to other cabs such as the Goliath II (which I own). It's about as loud as the G II. Nowhere near as loud as an Eden 410 XLT. I feel the Eden 210XLT may actually be a little louder. I was able to compare it directly to the standard Orange 410 and it definitely was not as loud. BTW list on the cab is $1249 and the power rating is 1200 watts. With my setup, I was putting in 1100 watts to the cab The 210 was another story. Did I mention this is a small cabinet?? Love the size. The sound of this 210 was great. Volume wise, it was much louder than you would expect. I would take this cab anywhere and feel really good about it. This one could be a small one cab solution. In this situation, the other ten gives more bottom and creates more depth from the cab. Still missing a tweeter, but with the 210s it's not as noticeable. For fingerstyle, it was more focused than the 410 and also had a very nice slap sound. Once again, no tweeter, but in a small group setting with no p.a. or a situation where you are really just needing a monitor, this could be a great solution. Sonically, still more odd school than most cabs we are accustomed to using these days. The list for the cab is $779 and it is rated at 600watts What do I think?? It is in keeping with the Orange line. I personally am a big fan of tube power and either of these cabs with an all tube amp could be a great solution. Neither cab needs alot of power to get a great sound. I do think that the 410 needs at least 700 watts. With the 210 you could probably get away with 350, These cabs kind of feel a niche between the Bergantino NV series and the modern neo cabs. These cabs have the small size, and in many ways are more retro sounding than the NVs. If I had to pick Orange or Berg, it would be the Berg 610 and the Orange 210. I think a fair test will be with the Orange Bass Terror. My assumption is that is what these are designed for. Two cabs getting a 1000 watts (or 500) would be good for most gigs. Playing thru the cabs, I definitely want to go "vintage". The cabs call for an old P bass or at least a passive bass. BTW... This is all IMO, IME, AFAIK.