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P-Bass vs PJ-Bass; do you lose anything with the PJ?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by kristlik, Feb 26, 2008.


  1. kristlik

    kristlik Guest

    Nov 22, 2006
    Lincoln, NE
    I really like my P-bass, and that P-Bass thump; but there are some songs that I would like to add a bit more "bite" or edge to that P-Bass sound; so I've been thinking about ordering my next P-Bass with the PJ pups (also passive). (looking at Fralins).

    So my question is; do you lose anything of the P-Bass sound when you add a J pup? Or can you truly turn the J pup off, to get the full P-bass thump?
     
  2. You can turn the J pickup fully off.

    Even better though, you can add a series/parallel switch between the pups, and when a P and J are in series, UBER thump :bassist:
     
  3. Nedmundo

    Nedmundo Supporting Member

    Jan 7, 2005
    Philadelphia
    Only loss is the satisfying minimalism of a straight up P, which limits the thought process. That's always a good thing, at least for me. But with my SB-2 I've grown to like the P/J configuration. The additional high end sparkle from the bridge pickup is useful sometimes. Yet typically those aren't my favorite times. ;)

    Oh yeah, Fralins rule. Definitely get those.
     
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  4. bikeplate

    bikeplate Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Upstate NY
    HI

    NOPE!! They rule. Get yourself one. I love mine

    Rob

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  6. basspraiser

    basspraiser Jammin for the Lamb! Supporting Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    Chicago - NW Burbs
    Nope! you only gain!!!!

    I turned my Glaub P into a P/J and I love the added tone I can get.....just make sure you get tone and volume control for both pick ups....that way, you have more control.....

    Doug

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  7. speedkills

    speedkills

    Jan 10, 2008
    California
    No.

    Yes.

    I was demonstrating this today to a friend.

    If I turn the J off you get good old P Bass thump.
    Turn the P and J on and you get a lot crisper attack.

    The only config I am not really impressed with is the single J pup on and the P off.

    MY (slightly hijacking) QUESTIONS:

    Can someone provide schematic for adding a series/parallel switch ??

    And is there anywhere I can hear the diff between series and parallel pups?
     
  8. I have one also, and overall it's very useful :)
    A pleasure to play, even with the EMG PJ set i don't loose that P sound
     
  9. RMay

    RMay

    Dec 5, 2003
    Colorado
    Nope! excellent for dialing in bit more "bite" or edge to that P-Bass sound

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Basshappi

    Basshappi

    Feb 12, 2007
    Tucson,AZ
    Hmmm, I'm not totally convinced about this whole P/J thing;

    [​IMG]

    :p:D:D
     
  11. Schematics for a series/parallel swich are pretty easy to find.

    If i have any spare time tomorrow i'll see if i can record something quickly to allow comparison.

    Basically tho, series = super thick sound.
     
  12. Lesfunk

    Lesfunk Supporting Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    S.E. Connecticut, USA
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    Endorsing artist-Reverend Guitars
    best of both worlds
     
  13. speedkills

    speedkills

    Jan 10, 2008
    California
    Ok - Thanks, I'll look for the schematic.

    If you could record something so I could here the difference that would be very cool!
     
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  15. weissguy

    weissguy

    Feb 6, 2008
    Denver
    I was going to post a similar question. I picked up a 70's precision and a previous owner put the J pickup in it. The tone pot is very scratchy, and there is a mini switch - just on-on - no both.
    I was trying to decide on how I'd like to rewire this baby...
    Push-pull pots? Concentric tone/vol pots - three pots vol-vol-tone?
    Any other favorite/suggested configurations that weren't already mentioned? I'm new to bass, and in general, I think the bass is too bright sounding - I have flatwounds on order.
     
  16. ahhh...Rob...we caught you again with the gratuitous "showing off my awesome hybrid" pic...

    I never get tired of looking at that thing...I am sure that you never get tired of playing it...one of my favourite basses on TB for sure...
     
  17. bikeplate

    bikeplate Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Upstate NY
    HI

    LOVE THAT BASS!!!!!!!!!!!

    Rob
     
  18. for a schematic, do it like this...

    http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=jass_bass_sp

    as far as the series tone on a P/J...well worth it, IMO...I have my P/J wired with a push-pull series pot and in series you get a volume boost and more low-mids...similar to the P-tone but with more "gusto"...
     
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  19. Alembic83

    Alembic83 Supporting Member

    Nov 2, 2005
    Salem, Oregon
    I gotta agree and say "no" you don't lose anything with the P/J setup. Just the "P" is good and "P/J" is great but like someone else said just the "J" doesn't do much for me.

    Not to try and hijack the thread, but what about a J-P-J config? Anyone have that? Wouldn't *that* truly be the best of both worlds? I think Jason Newsted had this config on some of his Alembics back in the early '90s...I'll try and dig up a pic of it, or at least an article quote...
     
  20. squish

    squish Supporting Member

    Dec 6, 2005
    Atl
    i guess i'm the only one going this way, but i think that p basses without the j give the vibe that "i'm playing a p bass dammit! i can make a decision!"
     
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  21. BassBob185

    BassBob185

    Oct 25, 2007
    Rocking Chair