P vs. J? Game Over?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by CharlieC, Nov 30, 2012.


  1. CharlieC

    CharlieC Supporting Member

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    I recently recorded audio for another thread that lets one easily hear the major difference between a "P" vs. "J"

    I welcome you to visit and listen for yourselves

    http://www.zinfanus.com/zoom_b3

    Cheers!
  2. klaus486

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    Potential problem here is that the J bass is capable of many other sounds other than what you've posted. Sounded to me like the J was just everything wide open.

    I do however like what you did there. Interesting to hear it through all those different amp sims. Would be helpful if there wasn't the distortion on every track though. I am not sure if that was intentional or not. At least on my computer every track sounds like it's peaking severely.
  3. CharlieC

    CharlieC Supporting Member

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    Thank you, sir! All bases were indeed "wide open" as each has only one shot at earning your love. <3

    The bass tones you heard on my page and the "distortion" there-within were the default amp model parameters of the Zoom B3 effect unit (for which I raise a toast to) and all of which were mainly South of 0-dB on my equipment. (and hence why I also supply the source file for)

    At long-last, I am a "P" man now, and you may have my extra Jazz pup and volume knob if you would like it :)

    Cheers!
  4. petrus61

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    P wins, either way. Sorry.
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  6. CrashAlpha

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    And that's why I love my Aerodyne - I don't have to choose.
  7. mellowinman

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    And yet, I will continue to gig with my J.

    Onward turns the world.
  8. Diesel Kilgore

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    I love a P. But a J with flats is a sexy thing.
  9. CharlieC

    CharlieC Supporting Member

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    Yes sir, and sexy is especially sexy with only 4-strings!

    :bag:
  10. Diesel Kilgore

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    Bare minimum? :D
  11. CharlieC

    CharlieC Supporting Member

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    Indeed! \m/
  12. martskre

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    The .mp3s are fine, but the Flash audio player on your site clips like crazy.
  13. CharlieC

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    That most likely is your Internet Service Provider in Norway :) Over here it is rock-solid like in the USA, LOL!

    Cheers!
  14. martskre

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    Yeah, well, sounds like the player is gaining up the volume which is causing the clipping. I recommend you look into it... or not, you know. Do whatever you want over there in the land of the free... ;)
  15. CharlieC

    CharlieC Supporting Member

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    I think we should instead play bass and raise a glass, brother!

    Cheers!
  16. prd004

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    No audio problems here!

    Ah, the eternal flame war that is P vs J!

    At the risk if throwing gasoline on the embers:
    Love em both but a J is more versatile, you can solo the neck pup on a J and sound very much like a P, and that's just one of the many sounds you can get out of it. Flame on! :-D
  17. martskre

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    I couldn't agree more. :D
  18. smeet

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    Several of the sims I listened to were indeed clipping on the attack of the low notes. The DI version was clean.

    If my jazz bass sounded like the one in your clips, I wouldn't want to gig with it either. I don't care for that thin scooped thing. But that's not at all the sound I get out of mine, or my Roscoe Beck. That said, I should be taking possession of a 2012 MIA P5 tomorrow, so we'll see what floats to the top...
  19. CharlieC

    CharlieC Supporting Member

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    As the Flash player on my HTML page is exclusively playing the same MP3 files through your browser, and ultimately, your hardware and speakers, I would assume the issue is on your side as I and some others have no such issue :) I will instead suggest that we blame TalkBass for this and enjoy ourselves, as that was my only original intention, LOL!

    Cheers!
  20. smeet

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    Yeah, what I hear is not really a hard-clipped mp3 file. I think it's just more gain than I would want to put on a "clean" amp sim. I assume it's just a difference in the bass tones we prefer.

    Of the two tones you present, I definitely prefer the P.
  21. CharlieC

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    Agreed, sir, and those tones are result of the default settings programmed into the Zoom B3 vs. my 0 dB source signal.

    Granted, I could have provided a wimpier level to the sims to combat their eagerness, but that's not how I roll :)

    I, too prefer the "P" and for that I salute you.

    Cheers!

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