Phat Phuk B clicks/pops when engaged

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  1. Thumper

    Thumper Supporting Member

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    Just got this mint, new to me PP. Signal chain: X2>TU2>Phat Phuk>BDDI>Compressore>Fdeck>CMD102p>Shure 900 in-ears. During setup the band asked me to not use it as the popping was loud enough to hurt/bother them. It is louder going on than off. I tried it with and without daisy chain. The original owner had no issues with it. The BDDI has a similar button/switch and is silent going on or off.

    Ideas?
     
  2. mattbass6945

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    i've heard a few things about this. this was the case with my old vfe el raton. disclaimer:i am clueless about electronic engineering.

    i was told to click it on and off a few times and this would rid of some kind of stored dc(?) voltage. this didn't work.

    i emailed peter at vfe and he was quick to respond and offer to mod it for me or send me the instructions for mods with pictures. have you contacted the builder?
     
  3. Thumper

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    No, just got the pedal Friday.
     
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    yeah, i still haven't got the vfe fixed either. i'm out of ideas! best of luck! bet it sounds killer otherwise!
     
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    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism Gold Supporting Member

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    I am just going to guess it is a true bypass pedal. That is one of the cons with true bypass, loud clicks/pops. This can be remedied electronically but I do not know how, I would assume it is not an easy mod.
     
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    it doesn't seem to be a real difficult mod if you are electronically inclined. it certainly isn't the case for all true bypass pedals.

    i was also told to try running a buffer in the chain, which i tried before and after said pedal. worth a shot, i suppose.....
     
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    Kind of strange to have a boost which doesn't engage quietly, kind of defeats the purpose.
     
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    jumblemind I also answer to Bryan Supporting Member

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    From a thread on a similar issue with the Barbershop:

    I would contact Matt at Wren&Cuff and see if he concurs. That would be an easy fix. The popping is often a byproduct of certain True Bypass designs, especially boosts or drives. The BDDI is a buffered bypass, so it's not that similar of a switch.
     
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    keep in mind this was advice that didn't work for me, sooo........:bag:

    i don't recall who it came from or if it may be useful in your situation. this is why i didn't immediately post this advice, but desperate times call for desperate measures!:D
     
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    jumblemind I also answer to Bryan Supporting Member

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    How does not engaging quietly defeat the purpose of making you louder? If you weren't rocking IEMs it probably wouldn't be much of an issue.
     
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    This is not a loud band until the fourth set. Nevertheless, we are committed to the in-ears and it is loud enough all three bandmates mentioned it and asked me not to use it.
     
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    i think contacting wren & cuff is your best bet. let us know what happens!
     
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    I felt like my PPB had a louder than normal click when I had it, so I sent it in to Matt (W&C) and had him move the internal bias to the outside a the same time. The click did go away after he looked at it...not sure what he did. He is awesome with customer service so definitely contact him
     
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    often a relay type true bypass can also cure it.
     
  17. Thumper

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    Played with the pedal quite a bit this morning through my home practice rig
    -changedg the order in the chain, no difference
    -Tried other cables, no difference
    -Tried with and without daisey chain, no difference
    -Clicking on and off didn’t help
    -Don’t know how to put a buffer in the chain
    -Didn’t try a 220k resistor, won’t without W&C input
    -Don’t know what a relay true bypass is

    I really like the tone it adds, a little thicker, more focused, and it could be a pedal I just leave on all the time. Heck , I played with the BDDI for ½ hour to get a decent tone and this just required a knob twist, combined with the BDDI it really is nice. So I may add my TC Spark just for boost.

    I will contact W+C, and get their input, does anyone have Matt’s email?

    Thanks for the input gang!
     
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    matt at wrenandcuff.com, but I would send it to admin at wrenandcuff.com, which is what the website says and what I think gets forwarded to all the people there. That way you aren't stuck with no response if he happens to be out of the office.
     
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    I had a ppb that did this, sent to Matt and he fixed it. He will take care of you I am sure!
     
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    Contacted Matt at W&C, got a one day response and repair number. These have a lifetime warranty. Fantastic customer service!
     
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    Didn't want this positive result buried. Lifetime warranty even if you're not the original owner!
     

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