Problems With Da Funk

Discussion in 'Technique [BG]' started by Savaaris, Mar 19, 2014.


  1. Savaaris

    Savaaris

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2013
    Messages:
    13
    I have been playing bass for almost 7 years and recently, ive found myself having a hard time writing a certain style of bass playing, i play mostly rock and metal, but i also play jazz and stuff like that, i just have trouble laying down "Da Funk" for my drummer and i to get in the pocket.. What do?
     
  2. bkbirge

    bkbirge Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2000
    Messages:
    2,073
    Location:
    Houston, TX
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Artist: Steak n Shake
    Play on the one. If you wonder if you are playing too much you are.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. brianrockwell84

    brianrockwell84

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2014
    Messages:
    10
    Yes.... make sure you always play/land on the 1. Use the pentatonic for fills.
     
  4. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2010
    Messages:
    5,618
    Location:
    Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
    Hitting on the 1 is essential but the funkiest part of the rhythm lies on the ee's and the uh's. (1-EE-and-UH,2-EE-and-UH,etc)
     
  5. Register to disable this ad
  6. BobaFret

    BobaFret Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2008
    Messages:
    1,193

    this
     
  7. M0ses

    M0ses

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2009
    Messages:
    3,236
    Location:
    Eastern Wisconsin
    Listen to funkadelic

    play like funkadelic
     
  8. dalkowski

    dalkowski

    Joined:
    May 20, 2009
    Messages:
    4,478
    Location:
    Massachusetts USofA
    Yep. If you do NOTHING else, hit that one with purpose and dedication. And get your hands on a copy of "C'est Chic." Tons of great funk LPs out there that I looove, but Chic's my go-to for solid, economical, reliable funk bass.
     
  9. ahc

    ahc

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2009
    Messages:
    604
    Location:
    No. Virginia
  10. SirMjac28

    SirMjac28 Patiently Waiting For The Next British Invasion Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010
    Messages:
    8,579
    Location:
    The Great Midwest
  11. Savaaris

    Savaaris

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2013
    Messages:
    13
    ahc, that is probably the best video, ever
     
  12. ahc

    ahc

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2009
    Messages:
    604
    Location:
    No. Virginia
    It tells it like it is.
     
  13. Lownote38

    Lownote38

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2013
    Messages:
    1,276
    Location:
    Nashville, TN
    Listen to a lot of funk, and it will eventually hit you upside the head like a brick. You have to hear it to "get" it. Not all funk lands on "the one" on every measure either. It can be very syncopated. Mother Popcorn lands on the one every other measure for example.
     
  14. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2003
    Messages:
    13,520
    Location:
    Newport News, VA via NYC
    Disclosures:
    Kohlman Bassworks
    As mentioned above, listen to some Funkadelic but basically you're gonna have to delve into funk music. It's not just a matter of listening to a few tunes and saying "ok, I got it". You can't fake the funk! Either you got it or you don't! But to get it, take a break from the rock and metal. Diversity is key. Check out the Funk 101, Funk 102 threads. Plenty of examples there.
     
  15. bass12

    bass12 Fueled by chocolate Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2008
    Messages:
    6,104
    Location:
    Montreal, Canada
    Listen to as much funk and funk-related music as you can (jazz, blues, old R&B, disco). The funk threads DW recommends above are great resources. If I had to recommend one album to get you started it would probably be the James Brown album "In The Jungle Groove" (though "C'est Chic" is a great suggestion as well).
     
  16. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2005
    Messages:
    79,959
    Location:
    Apopka, FL
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Hitting on the one is great for some funk styles, but that's way too simplistic an answer for the question asked. OK, so you hit hard on the one, but what do you do for the 2, 3 and 4?

    Savaaris, judging from your background, I'm going to guess that you're probably more used to playing on top of the beat or maybe even a little ahead of it sometimes. You may just need to relax and try to play just a little bit behind the beat. Don't slow it down, but funk grooves shouldn't be pushed. Start with very simple lines and get used to the concept. Duck Dunn with Booker T and the MG's, Sam And Dave, Otis Redding, and everyone else who recorded for Stax Records is a great one to listen to for nailing that concept. His grooves weren't particularly hard to play, but the feel he got was sick and dirty.
     
  17. Technicality

    Technicality

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2011
    Messages:
    55
    What the drummer does is really important. If this is one particular drummer you are struggling with it might not be an issue you can solve on your own.
     
  18. Savaaris

    Savaaris

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2013
    Messages:
    13
    Okay, thanks everyone, and you are totally right JimmyM i am used to being directly on top of the beat, creating a sort of drive, and i guess funk is more laid back and theres more to it than i had originally thought, now another thing if all of you could give me some stuff to listen to it would be much appreciated, cause i really wanna dive in to this, i want to "Get" it like Lownote38 said, i will take any suggestions, thanks you guys are the best
     
  19. okcrum

    okcrum in your chest

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2009
    Messages:
    2,761
    Media:
    2
    Location:
    Verde Valley, AZ
    Disclosures:
    Endorsing Artist: Dark Horse strings
    I played "Pick Up The Pieces" in a big band with a bari player who played the part straight up as written.

    It was awesome and terrible to behold. :D

    It's instructive to listen to Bootsie with JB, where the notes themselves are pretty square but the note placement is what makes it funky.
     
  20. Rev J

    Rev J

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2012
    Messages:
    377
    Location:
    Berkeley, Ca.
    Since you you classify yourself as a rock/metal guy start with what you know. Maybe go with some funk/metal like Chili Peppers, Infectious Grooves, Faith No More etc. and work your way back. It's interesting that even though this isn't a funk tune I hear an almost funk groove going on in the verses:



    The way the bass line and drums work together combined with the rhythm guitar plus the syncopation in the bass line.
     

Share This Page