Queensryche & Alice in Chains recent grit tone

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by tocs100, Dec 18, 2011.


  1. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @ leafpileradio.com Supporting Member

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  2. IntrepidCellist

    IntrepidCellist Supporting Member

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    Active bass, G-K amp, set for growl.
  3. Daniel Piper

    Daniel Piper Supporting Member

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    I always thought mike from AIC was a cranked svt sorta guy
  4. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @ leafpileradio.com Supporting Member

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    Tried one. Cool, but not OMG.

    Same as above. Also, Mike Inez has a huge pedalboard. Maybe he's using a Sansamp BDDI with blended overdrive?

    You guys both have experience with Sansamp stuff, whatdya think?
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  6. IntrepidCellist

    IntrepidCellist Supporting Member

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    That recipe up top is pretty much Mindcrime-era Queensryche.
  7. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @ leafpileradio.com Supporting Member

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    Right, but the "recent" sound of the live video was sadly absent from their classic studio sound (= blah, imo). Similar deal with AIC.

    Studio comparison clip: www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c3g6tTYoxM
    Yep, def ok-ish GK sound, a bit dated & synthy too, rather than growly, modern, and mean...
  8. perfektspace6

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    ...don't forget the pick. Some EMG's might help.
  9. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @ leafpileradio.com Supporting Member

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  10. JimiLL

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    Gonna need a heavy pick... emgs and a Sansamp should get you real close
  11. tycobb73

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    I saw footage of a recent AIC concert. He was using a spector. And those more than likely had EMGs in them. EMGs have a pretty unique sound.
  12. grendle

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    Spector + ampeg svt (2, 2 pre, or 7 pro) + svt8x10. Gets that tone all day , no effects.

    He's running a distortion (bddi?) On a wick for AIC. The Spector does that naturally.
  13. bassgod0dmw

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    Mike Inez plays a Warwick SS1 with a pick into a pair of SVT-II Pro's feeding a pair of Ampeg 8X10's.

    As mentioned above, he also uses Spector. His SS1 has EMG PJ's with a P reversed and an EMG preamp. The NS2 and SS1 are fairly similar construction and wood wise.

    No clue about his pedalboard.
  14. groove pump

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    My newer bass is a nice custom bolt-on 4-string that has EMG P/J pickups with a bass/treble preamp. It's not a hefty beast, but it has a mahogany body and maple/rosewood neck. It could get me a whole lot closer to that sound than my passive J-bass for sure.

    Careful with the BDDI. While it can get up toward an overdriven sound, it can also bury a lot of mids that might be not so helpful with trying to bring out that big diesel tone.
  15. daze_fourkay

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    Yep, sounds like EMGs, pick and Ampeg turned up with the mids high.
  16. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @ leafpileradio.com Supporting Member

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    Here's a new/working link for the AIC Sonisphere fest:


    Anyone got info on Inez's pedalboard yet?
  17. superdick2112

    superdick2112 Registered Spector Addict

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    As Grendle stated, Spector + overdriven Ampeg or GK = the Queensryche & AIC sound.

    I'll add that having low action & a touch of fret buzz is also important, and so is using a strong right hand picking or fingerstyle attack, and fresh nickle or steel roundwound strings.
    IMHO, the # 1 ingredient is active P/J EMG pickups & fresh strings.
  18. sumgruuvz

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    +1. spector pretty much solves that whole riddle of where the growl and grit are coming from :)
  19. tocs100

    tocs100 Utah Bass of Doom, Metal DJ @ leafpileradio.com Supporting Member

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    Then how does one explain the HUGE pedalboard (see vid)?

    I have a USA Peavey Millennium with active Music Man/J-Bass pups that sound better than any EMG's I've played. Then I bought a Sansamp bddi too but it doesn't get enough gain and and the gain farts-out w/o a huge bass cut first.
    So I'm running two paths made easy with a Boss LS-2:
    1) EHX steel leather into Zoom Sansamp sim with tons of processing
    2) Tech 21 Blonde into Behringer blendable bass o.d. (Boss ODB-3 clone)
    That's 3 levels of freq-dependent grind and it kills. No single ch. of gain is gonna get that sound. :bassist:
  20. Caca de Kick

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    Spector NS2/NS4 is the sound, they have that awesome grind tone. Amp is really unimportant.
  21. gene beauchamp

    gene beauchamp Supporting Member

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    Agreed. Spector is the key ingredient. Pick not necessary.

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