Question about P-routed J pickguards

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  1. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    Hi,

    I'm thinking of building a P/J bass in a J-style body so that I can use an Audere or J-Retro drop in preamp.

    Wondering, though, about Warmoth or similar J bass bodies and pickguards. Sometimes it almost appears like the P-bass rout is too close to the bottom of the pickguard and there's only a tiny strip of plastic underneath it.

    I'm hoping some of you guys can post pictures of your basses that have this kind of pickup/pickguard configuration.

    I believe the Fender Reggie Hamilton bass is like this too.

    Here's a few I found:

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  2. AphekGreg

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    I just bought a P routed J pickguard from Warmoth. Haven't used it yet. The guard extends closer to the bridge to allow for the different position of a P pickup. Yes there is a fairly thin strip below the D and G part of the pickup, but I don't think it's likely to break if you're worried about that. Once the body is routed for a P pickup, you couldn't return it to a standard J guard. The pickup rout would be visible.
     
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    I'm in the process of a build now of a jazz body with a neck P pickup. I have a Warmoth guard and yes the opening is very close to the bottom of the pickguard. Less than 1/8th inch from the opening to the edge!
     
  4. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    Hmm. So Warmoth's P-rout must be lower than say, the Fender Reggie Hamilton..

    I wonder if Allparts, Mighty Mite, B. Hefner, etc, are similar?
     
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    The Warmoth P route on a J pickguard does seem mighty close to the edge. If you look in the Warmoth J Bass Gallery, you can see a few more photos of this.

    If you can live with the looks of a J body without the p/g, you can always opt for a rear rout. I don't think this changes the physical location of the pickup, but without the p/g, you might not notice it as much.


    Do Allparts and Mighty Mite offer a P/J rout on a J body?
     
  7. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    Yeah, but I really want a pickguard for this particular body...
     
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    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    On second thought the Reggie Hamilton bass appears similar to the Warmoths

    I don't think it's that bad. In my case it'd be a white pearloid pickguard with creme pickups. So they'd be similar looking but just different enough for the pickup to stand out a bit.

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  9. BioDriver

    BioDriver A Cinderella story Supporting Member

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    I've used Warmoth pickguards in the past and was mighty impressed. Have you tried looking on eBay for used P-routed J guards?
     
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    No, but now that you mention it, the Fender Aerodyne fits this description, and I used to have an Aerodyne. Sweet, sweet bass, I miss it.
     
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    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    Anybody happen to have both an Aerodyne *and* a Warmoth bass with a P/J pickup rout? :)
     
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    Heres mine and its extremely close to the edge of the pickguard.

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  13. TimBosby

    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    Yeah I think they're all gonna be like that, which is sort of deceptive, because if you use Warmoth's "pickguard builder" it appears to not be near the edge at all.

    I wonder if the Aerodyne pickguard would work on a brand new un-drilled Warmoth body.

    Those Delano pickups look cool.
     
  14. moonshinegtrs

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    Here's mine:
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    I'm pretty sure that it is a Warmoth body & pickguard. The pickup comes very close to the edge, but I have never had a problem with it. I put the BAII on it & changed the control plate to a stacked knob version so it would just have a volume & tone. It now has a Seymour Duncan 1/4 lb P-pickup installed. It's a great bass.

    Moonshine :bassist:
     
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    I think that warmoth make the pickguards like that to make routing j basses easier... the half of the p pickup that was under the e and the a dropped right in no routing. but I had to take out about a half inch on the d and g side of the pickup. But you are right about them being deceptive because i expected it to have more space between the edge of it too. about those delanos you should hear them they growl ha.
     
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    bassvirtuoso My God, it's full of chrome! Supporting Member

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    Tim, you and I need to get together sometime. We seem to have similar bass ideas all the time!
     
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    They are there so that they match an actual P bass position. The aerodyne position is actually more toward the neck. Different placement= different tone. I had one from Jeanie's that I bought on ebay. It's in the aerodyne position. Still sounded great though.

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    Does anyone know if the Warmoth pg will fit on a squier jazz?
     
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    TimBosby Gold Supporting Member

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    Dave, yeah, definitely.

    LowEnd -
    That looks like what I'm looking for. What kind of body is that? Doesn't look like an Aeordyne body to me....

     
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    It's not, it's a mighty mite body that I routed out myself for the p pickup. Then I sprayed the finish.

    Here's a link to one of the pg's.
    parchment pickguard fits a fender Aerodyne jazz bass | eBay
     
  21. TimBosby

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    Thanks, that's very helpful. I might just order a Warmoth one with a bridge J-rout only, and then have Pat Wilkins do a P-rout for me in the Aerodyne position. He's going to be doing the finish so I imagine he could do the rout.

    I used to own an Aerodyne and it had amazing tone so whatever their positioning does to the sound, I think my ears will like..

    This is, assuming the Aerodyne pickguard will fit a Warmoth body but I see no reason why it shouldn't, if it fits a Mighty Mite body. And Warmoth bodies do not come with the pickguard holes drilled anyway, you have to drill them yourself, so I could easily make it work I think.

    The next question is, will the control cavity line up? I assume those are pretty standard. I'd be probably installing an Audere drop-in preamp..




     

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