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rank loudness of common cab/driver configs

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by scottfeldstein, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. scottfeldstein

    scottfeldstein Supporting Member

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    Ok, this is kind of dumb--or at least of dubious utility. But I want to know which cab is going to do more volume. All things being equal (which of course they aren't).

    I'll take a stab, from loudest to quietest.

    8x10
    6x10
    2x15
    4x10
    3x10
    2x12
    2x10
    1x15
    1x12
    1x10

    Again, I'm not looking for a 400 comment thread about how some cab manufacturers tune their cabs differently than others or how Eminence Kappalite Neo 10s have more x-max than some other brand of driver. Nor am I looking for a thread about the subjective qualities of volume or the vagaries of EQing.

    All things being equal, which cab is going to be louder given the same twist of the volume knob?
  2. Mykk

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    With all things being equal. My vote for would be the cab that has most speaker area moving the most air. The 810.

    I will say, in perceived volume. My Mesa Powerhouse 2x15" "sounds" louder than my Fender PRO 810.
  3. scottfeldstein

    scottfeldstein Supporting Member

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    Makes perfect sense. Do you think I have them ranked in the right order according to that criteria?
  4. Downunderwonder

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    You called it, even spelled dubious correctly. Welcome to your very own 30 pager.

    Can you indicate which factors you would like to remain equal across 10's 12's and 15's? :eyebrow:
  5. HolmeBass

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    Swapped 2x12 and 3x10, which is just my opinion, all things being equal ;)

    8x10
    6x10
    2x15
    4x10
    2x12
    3x10
    2x10
    1x15
    1x12
    1x10
  6. CL400Peavey

    CL400Peavey Supporting Member

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    Now we are talking. :bag:
  7. scottfeldstein

    scottfeldstein Supporting Member

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    Heh. Yep, probably. :)

    I'm thinking things like, cab make/model/tuning/materials, driver make/model...
  8. scottfeldstein

    scottfeldstein Supporting Member

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    Agreed. But that's taking away "all things being equal." :)
  9. Passinwind

    Passinwind Charlie Escher Supporting Member

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    Pesky reality...:cool:
  10. scottfeldstein

    scottfeldstein Supporting Member

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    I played a fF 12/6 cube this weekend. I'd forgo any cab built by any commercial manufacturer to get a pair of those.
  11. musicman666

    musicman666 Supporting Member

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    I would swap 2x10 and 115....MO
  12. CL400Peavey

    CL400Peavey Supporting Member

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    If you have the right application of power, the 12/6 is almost impossible to beat for sound/pound.
  13. musicman666

    musicman666 Supporting Member

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    Hmmmmm...Theres no 4x12...
  14. scottfeldstein

    scottfeldstein Supporting Member

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    You think? A 2x10 cab has two motors and 157 square inches of cone area. A 1x15 cab has one motor and 176 square inches of cone area. So, bigger cone on its one driver, but it's still just one driver. Not sure.
  15. eyeballkid

    eyeballkid Supporting Member

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    Id say:
    610x412
    610x215
    415
    810
    610
    412
    all else is pointless
    :cool:
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  17. scottfeldstein

    scottfeldstein Supporting Member

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    Except the "all else" is where most of us live! I'd be willing to be 90% of all TBers are using cabs smaller than the ones you've listed there.
  18. dhsierra1

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    displacement is what you're looking for. The average bass guitar 15" has around 400 cc if it has an Xmax of 5 mm.

    Two 10s at 4 mm (pretty typical) are going to weigh in around 300 cc.
  19. Fro 20

    Fro 20

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    or 18's

    "All things being equal" meaning, if all those cabs had the same sensitivity?
  20. scottfeldstein

    scottfeldstein Supporting Member

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    Yes, this! Thank you! So on that basis the 15 does edge out the 210. Interesting.

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