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Rickenbacker 4003

Discussion in 'The Perfect Bass' started by pablobrad, May 3, 2012.

  1. pablobrad

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    Can NEVER get my bottom E string to 'ring' true like the other 3 strings. It gives a dull, dead sound. Any advice pls?
  2. JxBass

    JxBass Supporting Member Supporting Member

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    What type/brand of strings are you using?
  3. pablobrad

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    I've tried quite a few ranging from mid to high price but always the same thing
  4. pablobrad

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    Ps: because I have the E string so high away from the pickup, that probably doesn't help either but I do angle the pickup to try to maintain it's effectiveness
  5. 1stnamebassist

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    Try tightening the truss rod closest to the E string about 1/4 turn. That may do the trick. remember the neck on the Ric should be as close to dead straight as you can get it also.
  6. Turlu

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    Rics are common for the dead E string... I can attest to that personnally having owned one... I tried everything one could think of and still I declared forfeit, she just did not want to give me that punch !
  7. sneha1965

    sneha1965 Supporting Member

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    You might check to make sure the string mute is not touching the string.
  8. NYCbassist

    NYCbassist Supporting Member

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    I would try EQ settings. I like my EQ on the Bassy side and find in a live setting I get too much low end and Have to EQ for the High's. I use Stock strings. I would avoid having any string higher than the others to any extreme. It sounds like you need a Pro Setup on Your RIC.
  9. nightwulf

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    Rick's are noted for having a "dead E"...you can help it out a bit with good eq....
  10. Srirachaglo

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    I'm 99.9% sure that it has to do with your pickup and/or pole height:
    Pole too close to E causes the string to get caught in the p'up's magnetic field and loses sustain and causes a warbly sound.
    Poles too far away from string won't have enough output.
    You have to find the sweet spot. I had a "distant" sounding E string that was cured by raising the E string pole higher than the rest (but not too high!). This also meant I had to lower some of the other poles too. Only new (200?-current) have adjustable pole pieces, so make sure this is a feature on your bass. This should fix the problem though. Also, you should read more into this at joeysbassnotes.com - he goes into better detail about p'up height and other common setup problems. Good luck!
  11. GIBrat51

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    Some do, and some don't. Neither of mine ('01 4003 & '73 4001) do - now. They both did have the Dead E Syndrome, after I got them off eBay and let them acclimate to Las Vegas for a couple of months. In both cases, loose screws were a contributing factor; especially the tailpiece screws. On the 4001, wonky bridge height screws and the mute touching the E string were the other causes. On the 4003, it was loose screws and pickup height adjustment; that came right after I had to redo them after putting the bridge p/u cover back on. I've also heard that the E string saddle can contribute to this.

    Definitely refer to Joey's Bass Notes; lots of good stuff there. And, as for trying to raise the pole pieces; unless they have a hex wrench hole in them -Don't! The plain ones are not adjustable (unless you're very, very lucky). Generally, fixing this problem takes patience and lots of careful tweaking. Unfortunately, every once in a while, nothing seems to work; hope that's not the case for you!
  12. Floyd Eye

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    Mine don't. You need to adjust the pickup(s).
  13. shameline

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    Mine does it too!! (2012 4003).

    Would replacing the bridge with a hipshot bridge helps?

    I was wondering if maybe the stone holding the E string gets carved to deep, causing the E string to be muffled by vibrating into the stone...

    Thanks!
  14. inthebassclef

    inthebassclef Supporting Member

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    I recently replaced my bridge with the hipshot and it was a major improvement. All the strings have much more clarity and more sustain. Also the individual string height definitely made a difference.
  15. NYCbassist

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    It's mostly about getting the Pole piece closer to the E string. You still need the action to be at an acceptable level. Then you can adjust the pickup height.

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