Songs with 7+5 chords

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  1. Hankenstein

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    Can anyone suggest any songs with lots of dominant sharp 5 chords? I need some for a lesson.

    Thanks
  2. tstone

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  3. Groove Master

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    Do you want +7 with natural 9ths chords for the whole-tone scale or +7 implying the altered scale?

    For the altered scale, any jazz tunes in minor could be a good source. A minor Blues for example.
  4. Hankenstein

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    Both actually - Minor blues is a good thought but I'm really looking for songs where the 7+5 is the featured sound.

    Thanks though.
  5. Hankenstein

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    Nice. Thanks. Hoping for some Jazz standards also.
  6. meandering

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    Be aware that many leadsheets in fakebooks will write a 7+5 chord when, in fact, the chord is a dominant with a b9 and b13. The first chord in the bridge to "Stella..." is one example.
  7. Hankenstein

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    And, of course, there's the G7 b13 later in Stella that is often treated as 7+5. Looking for a song with vast expanses of that sound.
  8. GrowlerBox

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    That's what he said ...
  9. Hankenstein

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    yikes - so he did. Sorry.
  10. contrabart

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    All the things you are, last chord before the last A part is C7+5.
  11. SeaBassTheFish

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    Juju. First four bars are B7+5.

    Very whole-tone-y though.
  12. hgiles

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    Look To the Sky
  13. Stick_Player

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    This is very true.

    Take a look at the first five chords to Someday My Prince Will Come.

    In Bb, it is often written as:

    || BbMaj7 | D7+5 | EbMaj7 | G7+5 | Cm7 | etc...

    The second and fourth chords are commonly written as X7+5.

    These chords, at the second and fourth measures, would probably be more correctly noted (from the Common Practice Period) as D7b13 (no 5th, 9th, 11th) - D, F#, C, Bb, and G7b13 (no 5th, 9th, 11th) - G, B, F, Eb, respectively.

    But it's a lot easier to read X7+5 and know that it's really an X7b13 (no 5th, 9th, 11th).

    :D
  14. Groove Doctor

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    Birth of the Blues:
    C7 |G7 G7+5 | C7 C7+5| F7....
  15. Hankenstein

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    Thanks, guys. Very helpful.
  16. Don Higdon

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    When Your Lover Has Gone, bars 14 and 30.
    Good Bye (Gordon Jenkins) bar 3 of the A section. Song construction is ABA.

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