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Speakon Question

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by SuperTbass, Mar 10, 2014.


  1. SuperTbass

    SuperTbass

    Aug 29, 2010
    Ohio
    So I pulled the trigger on a used GK 700rb-ii and a used GK 410SBX from GC. It's almost quite certainly a given that I will not be getting the Speakon cable that would have come with the cab had I bought it new. I do have an old Speakon cable from a Carvin RL-1000 and RL410 that I used to have. I found the old Carvin catalogue that I ordered that amp from and found the model number for that Speakon cable to be SP5.

    What I'm wondering is how I might be able to tell whether this is a 2, 4, or 8 pole cable. I couldn't find any specifications online for this particular cable. Is there a way to tell just by looking at it? Would I be able to tell just by using it and determining whether the biamping system is working? If that is the case, what would happen if it is biamped vs not?


    I'm hoping this was somewhat clear...
     
  2. lelandcrooks

    lelandcrooks Commercial User

    Jan 6, 2011
    Kansas
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    Owner SpeakerHardware.com
    It definitely won't be an 8. 4's are almost a defacto standard. 4's usually have button you pull back to unlock, 2's have a sleeve. A 2 will plug into a 4 socket, a 4 will not plug into a 2 socket. I think, it may be the reverse of that, been long time since I messed with nl2's
     
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  4. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member Commercial Seller

    Nov 17, 2010
    Houston Tx
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    Owner/Builder @Hopkins Guitars
    I know the 4 conductor cables I made up for my GK have worked fine on every other amp I used them in.
     
  5. musicman666

    musicman666

    Sep 11, 2011
    ca
    Is the 410 sbx biamp capable.....if so get a GK speakon cable.
     
  6. musicman666

    musicman666

    Sep 11, 2011
    ca
    Oh, if the cab is biamp I have two of those cables, I dont use em. PM me if you need em.
     
  7. SuperTbass

    SuperTbass

    Aug 29, 2010
    Ohio
    The cab is definitely bi-amp. I know I need a 4, just not sure if what I have is a 4.
     
  8. Unscrew the end and take a peek for 4 wires.
    A standard Speakon 4-wire cable will work fine.
     
  9. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    Groom Lake, NV
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    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
  10. SuperTbass

    SuperTbass

    Aug 29, 2010
    Ohio
    Well this looks like the 4 pole pic:

    ImageUploadedByTalkBass1394537219.983974.jpg

    However, this is the inside:

    ImageUploadedByTalkBass1394537288.000323.jpg

    Sooooo... drats?
     
  11. lelandcrooks

    lelandcrooks Commercial User

    Jan 6, 2011
    Kansas
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    Owner SpeakerHardware.com
    That's a 4, just with 2 of the connections used.
     
  12. wcriley

    wcriley

    Apr 5, 2010
    Western PA
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    Uncompensated endorsing user: fEARful
    You can use the 4 pole/2 conductor cable with the amp and cabinet in "full range".

    To take advantage of the G-K biamp feature, you'll need a 4 conductor cable.
     
  13. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member Commercial Seller

    Nov 17, 2010
    Houston Tx
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    Owner/Builder @Hopkins Guitars
    You can go to home depot and pick up some 4 conductor #12 awg SJOW or SOOW cable and make your own 4 conductor cables with the ends you already have.
     
  14. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    Groom Lake, NV
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    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Exactly. If you're just using it for a regular speaker cable, you use 2-conductor wire and connect it to the 1+/1- poles. No muss, no fuss. Usually for bridged mono, you use 1+/2+ at the amp end and 1+/1- at the speaker end. It won't hurt anything if you connect the cable backwards, but you won't get any sound. For bi-amp, you run four-conductor cable 1+/1-/2+/2- the same on both ends.
     



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