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SPEAKONS ON BASSES?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by NOZMEDA, Nov 23, 2012.


SPEAKONs ON BASSES?

Poll closed Nov 23, 2013.
  1. Yes

    8.4%
  2. No

    58.9%
  3. Maybe

    15.8%
  4. 1/4" 4 lyfe dawg

    16.8%
  1. NOZMEDA

    NOZMEDA

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    Would you swap your 1/4" on your bass for a speakon? There seems to be jacks small enough to fit in some basses. No more stepping on and unplugging(if you dont already run your cable through your strap loop) and no more rattle/bumping crackle that some people get. Its theoretical but possible and sounds cool.
     
  2. lowfreq33

    lowfreq33

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    They already make locking 1/4" output jacks. No need to put a 3/4" hole in your bass. It's an $8 part and two minutes with a soldering iron.
     
  3. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

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    Neutrik makes locking ¼-inch jacks. They're a lot less obtrusive than Speakons.

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  4. NOZMEDA

    NOZMEDA

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    Wow. Eyes open now. Haha. If you stick that into your bass do you need new plugs for your instrument cable?
     
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  6. SoVeryTired

    SoVeryTired Endorsing nothing, recommending much Supporting Member

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    No, just plug in with a normal jack. The locking is all in the socket (the red button is the release).
     
  7. NOZMEDA

    NOZMEDA

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    Awesome. Thanks
     
  8. line6man

    line6man

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    There are two things to say about this. First off, that's a safety feature. It is better that the cable should pull out of the jack than the jack pull out of the bass, stripping holes and potentially splitting wood. In any case, people usually loop their cables around the straplock to prevent damage, whether the jack is locking or not. Second, Speakon is a rather absurd choice for several reasons. What you want is the aforementioned locking 1/4" jack, not some other type of connector. A major issue with Speakon, XLR, DIN5, etc., -aside from being nonstandard, and thus, requiring specialized cables to be available and functional any time you play the bass- is that the connector does not rotate freely. This tends to lead to twisted cables. 1/4" connectors are definitely the preference, but failing that, perhaps a BNC connector or something would be the best choice.
     
  9. NOZMEDA

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    Hm. Good point. Speakon=bad
     
  10. GM60466

    GM60466

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    why reinvent the wheel??
     
  11. bassmeknik

    bassmeknik

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    Speakon connectors are used for speaker level applications and are not shielded for use as an instrument connector. I have used Neutrik locking 1/4" jacks and IMO that is the best instrument connector available.

    The poster who mentioned that Speakons can't rotate freely also had a good point, to prevent tangling 1/4" jacks and plugs are the standard on guitars for these reasons.


    Speakons "claim to fame" is that they have much higher current capability (not necessary for instrument level connections) and that they are insulated when disconnected to prevent shock hazard and to protect amplifier output stages (also unnecessary for signal level due to guitars very low voltage and current levels *even with active electronics).
     
  12. SoVeryTired

    SoVeryTired Endorsing nothing, recommending much Supporting Member

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    To create something that's even more round. One day I'll find the secret, then you'll all be sorry.
     
  13. bluesblaster

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    you forgot the sinister laugh
     
  14. SoVeryTired

    SoVeryTired Endorsing nothing, recommending much Supporting Member

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    I'm saving it.
     
  15. line6man

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    There's that, too. That is an issue if you're trying to keep your signal path within a complete Faraday cage from start to finish, but in practice, it is difficult to do that to begin with, considering that pickups are usually unshielded. I wouldn't think the small opening in the cage would make a huge difference, though.

    Extend it into three dimensions as a sphere. The secret is the implicit function x[SUP]2[/SUP]+y[SUP]2[/SUP]+z[SUP]2[/SUP]=1.
     
  16. T-Bird

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    Hi

    Pic please.

    Regards
    Sam
     
  17. line6man

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  18. smperry

    smperry Moderator Supporting Member

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    It's in post #3
     
  19. T-Bird

    T-Bird

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    Hi.

    ? That's a Speakon.
    My desire was for a pic of a locking 1/4" jack with smaller installation OD than 3/4". The one lowfreq33 talked about.

    Nope, it isn't.
    That's the regular 3/4" D-flange panel mounting locking jack I've been using because I haven't found anything smaller=tidier=easier to install.

    It IS the best jack I've found so far, but on thin, heavily rounded edge bodies, it's really distractive looking. Not to mention the task of drilling that 3/4" hole on the side of the body.
    IMHO anyway.

    Regards
    Sam
     
  20. Mykk

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    If something had to give, I'd rather the cord unplug from the jack than rip the jack out of the bass.
     
  21. smperry

    smperry Moderator Supporting Member

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    Oh gotcha....my mistake!
     

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