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Step/Stage/Sample&Hold Effect in compact pedal form?

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by Lebowsky, Dec 20, 2013.


  1. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    I did some research but couldn't find much. I'm a looking for a step effect, like the step phase on the Boss PH-3, or the Moog Bass Murf, but in compact form. Well yes, the Boss PH-3 is compact, but unfortunately it loses too much low-end to be usable live, and clean blending kinda loses the point of the effect.. Only other such effects I found are the Zvex Ooh- and Seek-Wah, but from what I read it doesn't handle bass very well either. And the Marshall Regenator doesn't seem to be getting very good reviews.

    Am I missing something? Or is there just nothing in that alley floating? I love my bass Murf, but it's just too big to stay on a PT-JR!
     
  2. Subdecay Proteus is exactly what you're looking for. It does the random step/S+H thing, and it has a freq knob to adjust the center frequency that the filter bounces around.
     
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  4. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    Thanks! I think everytime I read about the Proteus I thought it was a misspelled Prometheus, heh. I listened to a few clips on the tube, sounds maybe a bit too much funky, but I guess there ain't much else around. Although granted, the person was demoing with a funky riff... I think I'll give it a try!

    edit: ah well, it's ordered ;)
     
  5. The Proteus is a stripped-down Prometheus, so you were on the right track. As for funky, you were probably listening to the envelope filter mode, which the proteus also has like it's big brother. But the S+H mode is definitely not funky.
     
  6. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    Thanks heaps about that. I think I'll be having a lot of fun with it. Are you using one yourself?
     
  7. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    What about the Quasar Quantum? I couldn't find anything about it here on TB. Is that also a phaser with a step mode? Is it usable on bass?
     
  8. Skrogh

    Skrogh

    Jan 28, 2010
    Denmark
    The Source Audio BEF pro can also do this too, both with phasers and filters.
    With a MIDI interface you can even program the "steps" yourself, or use random steps.
     
  9. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    yeah but it ain't exactly "compact" ;)
     
  10. Another slightly less compact option is the eventide Pitchfactor or H9. The harpeggiator and harmodulator can do some of the things that you're interested in. Or maybe an EHX 8 step controlling something like a Line6 m5. You could set a lot of different parameters to sync together.
     
  11. Skrogh

    Skrogh

    Jan 28, 2010
    Denmark
    Ah missed that xD
     
  12. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    Played the Proteus at rehearsal for the first time tonight. VERY NICE. Almost no low end loss. At least nothing noticeable. Sounds awesome and very organic on a clean as well as a driven sound. Thanks so much bigchiefbc!
     
  13. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    so, my Proteus died after a year. There's no signal coming out when turned on. I hope I can have it repaired locally easily, but otherwise I might have to get something else, not sure it is worth sending to the US and back for repairs, and not sure I am happy with a pedal dying after a year either!

    did anything else in the same vein come out lately? Either a step sequencer or a sample&hold in compact form (max size MXR-style enclosure)
     
  14. willbassyeah

    willbassyeah

    Oct 9, 2011
    Singapore

    mwfx judder
    MWFX - Mini Judder (Metal Case)


    MWFX - Big Metal Judder
     
  15. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    that's a pretty cool pedal but not really what I'm looking for :)
     
  16. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    well what do you know, I took the pedal off the board to test it directly and it's working fine.. :eyebrow: PSU issue? all good anyway.. but still insteredted to know if there are other small step sequencers!
     
  17. StereoPlayer

    StereoPlayer

    Aug 29, 2010
    Saginaw, MI
    Ive been looking for a sample and hold(random) filter too.
    I used to run my bass signal thru my MicroMoog. it was awsome!
    looking for an affordable way to do this.
     
  18. Lebowsky

    Lebowsky Effects Forum Resident Supporting Member

    Mar 18, 2007
    Lausanne, Switzerland
    Well AFAIK the Subdecay is the best in the affordable category, and it is random.

    The other small ones I know of are the Zvex oow-wah, but I hear it is really bad on bass, and the Boss PH-3, but I had it and it loses tons of low end as well.

    Then you have the big war machines like Source Audio and Eventide and the Moog Bass Murf (the Moog is not random I think)

    And also the Xotic Robotalk 1, but it's not produced anymore...
     
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  19. warrplayer

    warrplayer

    Apr 16, 2008
    Charlotte, NC
    The Zoom MS-60b has a decent Seek-wah model. The MS-100bt has the same model and also a random filter.
     



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