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StingRay 2 band vs 3 band

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by ncapone, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. ncapone

    ncapone

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    What is it about the 3 band StingRay preamp that doesn't give it quite the same tone? I would think that leaving the mid flat would make it sound like a 2 band but that's not the case. Why is that? A 3 band just doesn't sound like a StingRay to me, but the extra eq option is a great idea.
  2. Mastermold

    Mastermold Supporting Member

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    Sounds good to me.
  3. Down_Low

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    You can always drop a John East pre amp into a 3 band Stingray. Supposedly sounds like the old style ones, but has a mid knob as well.
  4. 73jbass

    73jbass Gold Supporting Member

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    Different frequency centers I think. Might get an accurate answer on the EBMM boards.
  5. drTSTingray

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    If you cut the mids a little and boost the bass and treble a little you will get the same sound more or less as a 2 band with the bass and treble boosted. I disagree that it doesn't sound like a Stingray - I have four stingrays one of which is a 2 band - they all get that classic tone and the 3 bands can get the signature Bernard Edwards, Louis Johnson, Pino Palladino, Tim Commerford sounds. At one time I used my 2 band fretted and 3 band fretless for different parts of the same gigs - I had to boost the mid on the amp to make the 2 band as present as the 3 band in the mix when changing one to the other. Both the 2 and 3 bands are great instruments. I will not be changing the pre amps in mine!!!
  6. Dragan

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    I dont know about newer 2 vs 3 band,however for some reason, pre EB (with 2 bands) always sounded better than newer models. they say older preamp were different,and that is obviously true. also pick ups were probably different. I am not MM expert,but like said, there is something about 2 band StingRays....
  7. georgestrings

    georgestrings Supporting Member

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    IMO/IME, the 2 band has a slightly lower mid presence that's pretty much "baked in", whereas the 3 band has more of an upper mid presence to it... IMO, the 2 band's mid sound is sort of similar to a Spector - it just works really well in a band mix...


    - georgestrings
  8. mcnach

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    They are different preamps, the 3EQ is not a 2EQ plus a mids control, it's a different design (not crazy different though, it still sounds very much Stingray!).

    For a 2EQ plus mids control, check out the John East MMSR preamp.
  9. mongo2

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    I've read that the 2 band is boost only on the bass and boost/cut on the treble while the 3 band is boost/cut on everything.
  10. ncapone

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    Thanks everyone; I think I understand now. Not to say the 3 band sounds bad-- it totally doesn't! But they're just not the same and you all answered my question as to why.
  11. Orpheus55

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    I've had the three band since 09 and wouldn't change a thing. Run it all on flat settings with Stage III flats. KIller tone.
  12. Mastermold

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    3 band works great for me too. EQ does its job, great tones.
  13. Up the dose

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    The three band goes to 11. Its one louder.
  14. mcnach

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    And listen to the sustain...

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