Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by DrVenkman, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. DrVenkman


    Jan 22, 2010
    Pacific NW
    I'm looking for an inexpensive Stingray knockoff, a five string. Top contenders now are an OLP or the new SBMM SUB series. I'm not concerned with the active/passive difference, I've got no problem swapping pickups or preamps. What I really want to know about is ergonomics and feel, particularly the neck.

    I can likely find a SUB at a local GC to try out, but not an OLP for a side by side comparison, so look to your collective wisdom.

    Neck-wise I'm a jazz bass guy, so I tend to favor slimmer necks and tighter string spacing, but I know measurements don't tell the whole story.

    What say ye?
  2. Gorn Captain

    Gorn Captain Supporting Member

    Dec 15, 2011
    The neck on the sub is fantastic. Satin finish and very c-shaped (from what I remember, I owned one a while back and sold it). I've only played one or two OLP's and was never impressed.
  3. Jazz Ad

    Jazz Ad Mi la ré sol Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    OLPs are back ?
    I really liked the first series of SUB and their duratex-like finish.
  4. Not sure about the OLP, but the SUB is a slab body, no contours.

    EDIT: Oops, I was referring to the first generation SUB's. Not sure about the recent release.
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  6. chuck norriss

    chuck norriss Banned

    Jan 20, 2011
    I believe the OLP has the smaller neck fo the two I don't exactly remember. Both are nice instruments and the active pickups are a noticeable & significant difference. May I suggest buying one or both from the GC used site & returning the one you don't want. They have a 30-day return policy. Just ask if you can return to the store to avoid shipping costs. I'm certain you can.
  7. Ender_rpm


    Apr 18, 2004
    St. Louis MO
    Nope- the new SUB line is a very similar level import line that EBMM brought back in house. Quality seems a bit better on the ones I have tried, but it's obvious they are lower end compared to the Sterling by EBMM line.
  8. peledog

    peledog Supporting Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    I don't recall the OLP having a narrow neck. The SBMM S.U.B has a narrow neck. I would say the quality is very similar but the neck on the S.U.B. feels better IMO.
  9. T-birdfan


    Jan 29, 2001
    Ontario, Canada
    I've owned both. OLP was heavy, neck was typical of a stingray, stock pickup was weak, once setup it played well but didn't knock me out. The SUB I owned was an SB 4, the sterling shaped body and neck made for Musicians Friend. Neck was really nice and fast, fit and finish was great. Pickup was really hot and a little hard to take, but for the money not bad at all, especially with all the usual coupons on the Internet.
  10. tubatodd

    tubatodd Supporting Member

    Oct 31, 2004
    Birmingham, AL
    Back when I was a band director, I had a student with a blue OLP stingray. The bass was just ok. I own 2 of the new SUBs and from what I remember, these are far superior to the OLP design.
  11. TDCbass


    Oct 17, 2013
    Wylie Tx
    I just bought a SUB Ray 4 and I'm liking it a lot. The neck is way thinner than my real stingray, almost an "A" shape to it. Frets need a little finishing, nothing a small file/fine sand paper won't take care of. Otherwise a great bass to tool around with. I bought it from GC to tune BEAD since I'm not a big 5 string fan. Don't know about OLP though.
  12. Steve Dallman

    Steve Dallman Supporting Member

    My best friend has an OLP. It was a pretty unremarkable bass. I built an original type, two band MM EQ, wired the pickup in parallel, and put the EQ in.

    Fantastic bass! The preamp turned it into a real player.
  13. spaz21387


    Feb 25, 2008
    Portland oregon
    I have both. The olp neck is is fat like a p bass or a stingray. The body is slab almost no contours. Id have to say the sub is much better. Id recommend the sub.
  14. DrVenkman


    Jan 22, 2010
    Pacific NW
    Sounds like the consensus is the SUB!
  15. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism Gold Supporting Member

    I haven't seen many OLPs but the couple I have seen were total pieces of spit. I would describe their tone as anemic.

    I have not seen a SUB but I hear good things, I would go with that if it was me.
  16. NKBassman

    NKBassman Lvl 10 Nerd Supporting Member

    Jun 16, 2009
    I had an original SUB for a little while. Liked the bass overall, but didn't care much for the painted neck. The finish on the bass seemed practically indestructible, though.
  17. GM60466


    May 20, 2006
    Land of Lakland
    GC just dumped some NOS OLP MM4s for cheap $$
  18. scottbass

    scottbass Bass lines like a big, funky giant

    Jul 13, 2004
    Southern MN
    This is exactly my experience, although I own a 4-string OLP and a pre-EB StingRay. I upgraded the pickup and preamp in the OLP so now it sounds like a "real" StingRay, but I don't really like the neck compared to a "real" StingRay.

    I have played the (relatively) new import Rays in a store, and their necks feel much more like a "real" StingRay.

    I would not describe any of those necks as being remotely like a Fender Jazz. (For the record, I don't particularly like Jazz necks, either.)

    Again, my comparisons are all between 4-string basses. And the usual disclaimers: IMHO, YMMV, etc.