All the time on this forum I hear the same thing. "He's got chops, but can he groove?" "Who needs chops, just groove" "Chops don't get you gigs", ect. What is it that makes "groove" and chops exclusive? Groove, I interpret to mean things such as: -good timing -clean articulation -clean muting So, who do you think is more likely to be able to do these things: A guy who pushes himself to practice 30 minutes a day for an 80s pop cover band, or a dedicated person who woodsheds Racer X for hours? All "groove" to me seems like is an excuse to not put the time and effort into gaining skills. If you play enough, chops WILL come to you, as your body naturally weans into the path of least resistance, the most efficient technique. And even if you don't like that music, the worst thing that can happen is that you develop a more economic technique, and learn to play slower better. Of course, holding yourself back and not going balls to the walls is an issue. But of all the chops crazy players on all instruments I've known, they can still understand English enough to comprehend the phrase "No fills". In fact, if you look at the players getting the big buck gigs with major artists, they're all extremely good, yet they're paid thousands to plug root notes. Truth be told, I've never met the mythical guy who has to over embellish simple songs.