The Gibstang: EB0-meets-Mustang frankenbuild (Novak EB-BS content)

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by astack, Apr 5, 2014.


  1. astack

    astack Supporting Member

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    This bass has been steeping in my mind for almost two years now. I've slowly collected nearly all the parts and I'm several steps into it. Time to get serious and finish this thing. :hyper: I'm counting on peer pressure from the LC to keep me focused. :bag:

    Here are the initial photochopped ideas: Take (A) with the bridge from (B) and the pick guard from (C)
    (A)
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    (B)
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    (C)
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    Specs
    Body:
    Parted from an Epiphone EB0

    Neck:
    1977/8 Mustang neck (eBay)
    Maple Fingerboard
    Major mojo

    Electronics:
    Curtis Novak EB-BS, in the P-position
    Volume, Tone

    Hardware:
    70's Mustang tuners (eBay)
    Squier Mustang bass bridge (I've been back and forth with the 3-point bridge, but I'm liking the Mustang bridge for now)
    Witch hat knobs
    Dunlop strap locks

    Finish:
    Oly white
    Tort pickguard, if any

    Progress pics after the break!
     
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  2. ronaldpdbrandt

    ronaldpdbrandt Supporting Member

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    I like everything about this. I'd say you've made all the right choices, by the way. I can't wait to see it realized!

    Subbed, of course.
     
  3. ctmullins

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    Nice. As the owner of a EB-BS, it sounds great in the P position. Good choice. :)
     
  4. astack

    astack Supporting Member

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    I got the neck first, which was in solid condition except for a few divots on the back.

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    Based on suggestions from the LC, I filled these with some CA glue and wet sanded to get it nice and smooth -- much better now.

    I picked up the donor Epiphone while on vacation for $100. When I got home, I was so excited to get started, I ripped it apart before getting a before picture.

    First step was stripping the finish.

    Before:
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    Beautiful pickup route
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    Nice "contour"
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    Spotless fix from the last guy :eyebrow:
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    Progress!
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    This is where I did some damage and (again!) the LC helped me get past it. See: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f57/oops-how-fix-epi-eb-0-top-delamination-1043581/ After a bunch of sanding with the ROS...

    I then did some routing to set the neck closer to the butt to help with balance. Plus the mounting holes in the neck are spaced farther apart on the Mustang neck, so it has to move up:
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    And here we are today with most of the hardware:
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  6. astack

    astack Supporting Member

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    Thanks dudes for the posts and following along!

    Plugged some holes today:

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    Took a bit to get this guy to size with just a jigsaw and ROS from a big block of mahogany:
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    Gave me plenty of nice filler dust:
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    And "clamped" with my favorite weights:
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    Next up is getting the neck pocket going by shimming the sides and routing the block.
     
  7. Splods

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    I'm glad I don't do Calc, the textbooks from psychology are already giving me back aches.
     
  8. ctmullins

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    You sure that's not just psychosomatic? :)

    Good job Astack! Looking forward to more pics!
     
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  9. Splods

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    It could be, but when you are lugging around with 15kg on your back every day, it's bound to cause problems.

    Awesome build idea, I like Pickguard C with the mustang bridge.

    I wonder how neck heavy this thing will be.
     
  10. bassingeorge

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    This looks weird but soooo fun! I bet this will turn out great! Subbed!
     
  11. astack

    astack Supporting Member

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    Yup, the burning question...

    I originally had gotten lightweight tuners, but they didn't fit and I didn't want to mod this neck further. I also don't like the look of the little tuners, especially on a classic Fender neck. So I' hoping the "period correct" tuners work out fine.

    I also am going to shift the neck down (which gives pretty crappy upper register access :/ ) to help.

    The body is pretty light and came with a big electronics cavity, so that's not helping. But that also means I can add weight there if needed. It'll still be a very light bass.
     
  12. Salamenster

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    Try med school. THAT'll get your vertebrae inflammeted!
     
  13. astack

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    Sawed off the block. It broke at the end, leaving a little divot :/ but it's mostly where the neck pockets going. Plus being a solid color I feel it can cheat on using a lot of filler as needed. Phew.

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    Re: the calc books. Those are from college (engineering). I try to avoid doing that these days (engineering :p).
     
  14. zontar

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    Looks like a cool idea.
    Fun watching the progress.
     
  15. Salamenster

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    I know I'm probably too late with this, but couldn't it be useful to use a fenderstyle bridge? Those Gibson/Epi tripod-thingies are complete b*tches sometimes.
     
  16. mcarp555

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    Did you not read the first post where he mentions using the Mustang bridge?
     
  17. astack

    astack Supporting Member

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    Yup that's the plan. I actually really like the look of both -- maybe even the 3-pointer more -- but the Fender will just be easier all around (flat neck, easier to adjust, etc). I'm also not a fan of the look of the Hipshot 3-point replacement. If a vintage 'Stang bridge comes up for a decent price I might actually grab it to fit with the tuners and neck, too, but nothing since I started looking.
     
  18. Salamenster

    Salamenster

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    Woopz. My apologies. I saw the three holes and jumped to conclusions... :rollno: Sorry.
     
  19. astack

    astack Supporting Member

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    No worries! Always open to input from the collective, so thanks.
     
  20. wraub

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    This is looking really cool, nice ideas here. However, I know it's part of the vibe of the original Gibby design, but do you really need a pickguard at all? I personally think it might look better without one. That said, if you must, the PG from #3 with the bridge from #2 looks pretty damn cool.

    Definitely watching this...
     
  21. astack

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    Thanks!

    Great points. I'm ambivalent about the PG and think it'll be a game-time-decision-type thing. Though I should probably fill the screw holes if I'm for sure not doing it... Then again, because it's never going to be covering cavities, I could always pull it off whenever I want.

    There's one other BIG design change I'm toying with, too, to make it mine that I'll have to decide on soon. I think I'll get it put together pre-finishing and see how she feels.

    Takeaway is: I should be more decisive.
     

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