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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous [BG]' started by Kwesi, Feb 1, 2013.


  1. Kwesi

    Kwesi Supporting Member

    Is there such a thing as secular Gospel? Oxymoronic terminology, I know but I think ya'll get what I mean. Gospel but without the whole religious part :p. Loooooooooove the music, not so much the lyrics. And not necessarily because I'm not Christian but because their just uninteresting/the same thing over and over in every song.

    I'd love to hear that sound but with different lyrics or none at all. It's a longshot I know, but I had to ask.
     
  2. kreider204

    kreider204

    Nov 29, 2008
    WI, USA
    I'm not sure, but I bet you could find gospel sung in a foreign language you don't know. Then you could enjoy just the sound of it without the lyrical content bothering you.
     
  3. Kwesi

    Kwesi Supporting Member

    That's a great idea! I wouldn't even know where to begin to look though.
     
  4. Unrepresented

    Unrepresented Something Borderline Offensive

    Jul 1, 2006
    San Diego, CA
    I am intrigued by this idea.
     
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  6. pedroims

    pedroims Supporting Member

    Dec 19, 2007
    Michigan
    Much of the soul/R&B genre has deep roots in traditional gospel, contemporary gospel is influenced by R&B ,hip hop and funk. Look in those styles but I would say that modern R&B its your answer. something like this
     
  7. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism Gold Supporting Member

    +1. I have had a lot of gospel students and I just teach them R&B stylings... because I too cannot stand the lyrics in god rock either... worse drivel than pop music just about god instead of love.
     
  8. f64

    f64

    Oct 31, 2009
    Try New Orleans. Nobody can understand them.
     
  9. Gospel-style music but with secular lyrics. Sure it exists, not as a scene or trend, but plenty of bands have done it to one degree or another. Not really my cup of tea but the concept is valid.
     
  10. megafiddle

    megafiddle

    May 25, 2011
    Not sure if this is what you are looking for, but might be worth a listen.
    She has an extraordinary voice. It's a version of Jimmy Cliff's song.

     
  11. Violen

    Violen Instructor in the Vance/Rabbath Method

    Apr 19, 2004
    Kansas City Metro Area
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    Ever heard of Ray Charles?
     
  12. king_biscuit

    king_biscuit Supporting Member

    May 21, 2006
    US
    I always thought this sounded like secular gospel:

     
  13. Kwesi

    Kwesi Supporting Member

    Just to clarify a bit I mean urban gospel/black gospel. That's what I'm after musically, Fred Hammond, Israel Houghton, etc

    This is it! I'm looking for more of the upbeat hard groovin stuff but otherwise this is exactly what I'm after! Thanks!
     
  14. bass12

    bass12 Fueled by chocolate Supporting Member

    Jun 8, 2008
    Montreal, Canada
    Interesting question. I've always loved the power of gospel music but I agree that sometimes the lyrics can be a bit much. I feel the same way about a lot of reggae...
     
  15. hrodbert696

    hrodbert696 Supporting Member

    Not my field of expertise, but that's what I always thought soul music was - gospel techniques with secular themes. Seems like all those great soul singers learned their chops in gospel choirs as kids.
     
  16. David A. Davis

    David A. Davis Supporting Member

    Apr 5, 2008
    Christiansburg, VA
  17. Kwesi

    Kwesi Supporting Member

    I appreciate the suggestions but I don't think I've been clear enough about what I'm after so here are some examples:

     
  18. Duckwater

    Duckwater

    May 10, 2010
    USA, Washington
    I'm an Atheist and I love Gospel music. I'm really picky about lyrics and most of the time I find them uncreative and unintelligent in any genre of music, so I have learned to block out the words and listen to the melody of the vocals.
     
  19. qervo

    qervo

    May 18, 2011
    Perhaps try Donnie McClurkin, Mary Mary, or Kirk Franklin
     
  20. Kwesi

    Kwesi Supporting Member

    My problem exactly.

    I'll be sure to check out the other artists but Kirk Franklin IS a gospel artist or has he gone secular in the last few years, haha?

    Now that I think of it, it would be kind of cool to see a gospel musician go secular but continue to still make music (nothing hateful, of course, just cool jams sans all the God bits).
     
  21. qervo

    qervo

    May 18, 2011
    They are gospel artist but I find their lyrics not so redundant ,, especially Mary Mary . She got some cool grooves