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Thoughts on my new board

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by MicG, Jan 19, 2014.

  1. MicG

    MicG Supporting Member

    Jan 2, 2006
    Dearborn, Michigan
    Bass>TurboTuner>Xerograph Deluxe>Empress Comp>Octron>Tall Font Russian>Duality>Vintage Microtubes>B7K

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    Thoughts:

    1. Upon first impression --sounds awesome. :bassist:
    2. Not sure but I think I've got the theory right: the placement of the envelope filter should be before the compressor, the compressor should be before the octave, and the octave should be as in early in the chain as possible (before dirt, etc).
    3. I think eventually I want to replace the Empress for an FEA Labs dual band comp/limiter and the Octron for a IE Subterranea.

    Your turn!
     
  2. Guinness20

    Guinness20

    Jan 24, 2013
    Liverpool, UK
    Looks ace, some quality gear on there! Interesting that you have the combo of the tfr, vmt and duality - how do you use the two fuzzes together, and how do you stop the vmt and tfr from sounding like a muffled mess?

    Soundclips!
     
  3. Cables are very neat and you have plenty of stomp space. Looks very user-friendly.
     
  4. Nice gear, looks great. I would have placed the pedals in the same order as you.
     
  5. I would put the octave and at least one of your dirt pedals before the Xero and the compressor would be last to level out volume spikes from the filter. I know that you use the compressor to improve tracking on your octave but have you tried just rolling your tone off? Helps with my OC-2.
     
  6. Got2SadowskyNYC

    Got2SadowskyNYC

    Dec 5, 2012
    Nashville, TN
    Disclosures:
    Artist: Sadowsky, Bag End, Visual Sound, Pedaltrain, George L
    Would benefit from a George L's cable kit.

    The top row needs to be shifted down just a bit. The jacks are sticking off the edge of the board and can be hit and bent/broken pretty easily.
     
  7. MicG

    MicG Supporting Member

    Jan 2, 2006
    Dearborn, Michigan
    Hey thanks everybody! I may attempt to post sound-clips once I get my recording gear situated.

    Can you elaborate on what the George L's would improve on?

    I think I may shift that top row down a bit, but I'm not sure how to tackle that mess around the Xero.
     
  8. MicG

    MicG Supporting Member

    Jan 2, 2006
    Dearborn, Michigan
    So what if I did:

    Tuner>Octron>TFR>Xero>Comp>Duality>Microtubes>B7K

    I want to keep the B7K at the end of the signal for its EQ and DI.
     
  9. aphexafx

    aphexafx A mind is a terrible thing.

    Dec 10, 2013
    Denver, Colorado
    Definitely, have a go at that.

    Have you tried both your TFR and your Duality in front of your Xerograph? Did you prefer the TFR for some reason? I'm asking because I'm dying to try the Duality gated fuzz side with a Xerograph. :D But also, depending on your intended use, the Duality is nice and touchy up front where your fingers can get to it. Perhaps the TFR is too, though.
     
  10. XXL

    XXL Everything All The Time Supporting Member

    Jun 14, 2007
    Riverside, CA.
    I'd put those pedals in this chain:

    Turner>Octron>VMT>Duality>TFR>Xero>Comp>B7K.

    Also I suggest an expression pedal for the Xero, makes it even more awesome.
     
  11. kevteop

    kevteop

    Feb 12, 2008
    York, UK
    I always prefer filters after dirt. You'll lose some of the envelope effect, but that's what you get with that particular filter. Some filters have either effects loops for housing a fuzz pedal or an 'envelope in' jack so you can still send them a clean signal for operating the envelope follower.
     
  12. MicG

    MicG Supporting Member

    Jan 2, 2006
    Dearborn, Michigan
    So after some consideration I've decided to go with this setup:

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    I was wondering: is it bad to have the patch cables wrapped like that?
     
  13. eveilleu

    eveilleu Supporting Member

    Oct 30, 2013
    Montreal, Qc
    Nice. Did you try the Duality after the VMT ?

    I'd assume as long as you're not making "hard corners" it should be fine. But personally, I'd give them a bit of slack.

    cheers!
     
  14. MicG

    MicG Supporting Member

    Jan 2, 2006
    Dearborn, Michigan
    No actually I haven't tried that config yet. I'll be sure to try that next! I was thinking the same thing about giving more slack too..
     
  15. aphexafx

    aphexafx A mind is a terrible thing.

    Dec 10, 2013
    Denver, Colorado
    *looks for Xerograph*
     
  16. Mosfed

    Mosfed The mighty mighty Supporting Member

    Apr 21, 2013
    On the Mont Blanc
    I would put the octave before the compressor. And what happened to your filter? I love having a good envelope filter on my board.
     
  17. MicG

    MicG Supporting Member

    Jan 2, 2006
    Dearborn, Michigan

    Octave before compressor?? I thought after would yield better tracking?
    Yea, I thought I couldn't make it work with the Xero but I'm reconsidering..

    The signal path would then be:

    Bass>tuner>Octave>Comp>Xero>VMT>Duality>B7K
     
  18. HolmeBass

    HolmeBass Supporting Member

    Jan 18, 2007
    Charlottesville, VA
    I wouldn't worry about tracking with the octaver until you find that there is a problem with tracking. Also, playing the same thing on different strings/neck position often takes care of tracking issues for me.
     
  19. rob_thebassman

    rob_thebassman

    Jul 26, 2010
    Sheffield
    Disclosures:
    playing bass since 2005



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