I just bought some TI flats for a 51" P bass build I am working on. So in the meantime I threw them on my 2012 Am Std P bass just to see how it would sound and WOW! I am blown away! They sound amazing! Nice thump very smooth clear sounding and very articulate! I read that some people think that they are kind of floppy but I didn't find that the case at all. I would say that they have a bit more bend to them than other flats but I kind of dig it! I guess I am going to have to buy another set for my 51" build because those aren't coming off that bass!