Transparent Combo?

Discussion in 'Amps [BG]' started by TwoRivers, Jan 24, 2014.


  1. TwoRivers

    TwoRivers Supporting Member

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    I'm currently using an Ampeg PF-500 and PF-115he cabs. I'm run through FOH everywhere I play, and I figure that's 95% of what people hear. While I like the sound and portability of my PF rig, I'm interested in finding something with a more natural sound reproduction, more like the PA would produce. I want to get a better idea of what people are hearing and how my pedals/bass are affecting that sound. What would you guys recommend? As far as wattage/speakers, the rig will primarily be used for home practice and monitoring on stage. The PF-500 and one of the 15" cabs usually cover me fine. I've only had to use the second one a few times on outdoor gigs when a crappy PA was supplied.
     
  2. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim Gold Supporting Member

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    I am assuming you can by pass the EQ in the PF-500 if you need to via the effects return. Send your pedals there (or to the regular pre-amp in), and then out to a 12/6/1 fEARful.
     
  3. TwoRivers

    TwoRivers Supporting Member

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    You are absolutely right. That can be done. I was looking for a combo, but getting a new cab only is certainly an option.
     
  4. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim Gold Supporting Member

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    What about an Acoustic Image? They are "transparent" and combos, though not that loud, and not cheap.
     
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  6. pfschim

    pfschim Just a Skeleton with a Jazz bass

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    my only advice would be, be cautious about the concept of transparency from the get-go. No amp or cab is acoustically transparent, all of them will impart some tonal influence. Greenboy cabs have a rep for "only reproducing what you put it them" but there are many here who feel they also impart a certain kind of character. Good if you want that, less good if you don't.

    I suppose if your goal is to hear your bass as it sounds through a PA, perhaps pickup a current gen power amp and a PA style 2way or 3way cab from Carvin or JBL or whoever. I believe the Greenboy journey was somewhat influenced way back by the use of one of the Carvin LS series 3 way PA cabs.
    (by saying this, please GB fans, do not offer a lecture on the holy provenance of the GB designs - I mean no disrespect :))

    The trick will always be the preamp section and the inherent voice of that element in the signal chain. You could try a small PA style mixer and just not boost any of the eq settings.

    I am not at all sure you will be able to get what you seek in any combo amp that I am aware of.

    good luck
     
  7. DogBone

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    If you're set on a combo your quick answer is a KEYBOARD amplifier.

    But your BEST answer would be something like this:

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    Great, great advice! :hyper:

    And yeah, indeed, the fEARful evolved from experiments using and modifiying the older Carvin LS 1503 cabs for bass.

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  8. DukeLeJeune

    DukeLeJeune Only immortal for a limited time Gold Supporting Member

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    True, but some less than others. I have bass cabs that pull double duty as home stereo speakers and/or home studio monitors. One of my bass cabs has been specified (by the acoustician) for tracking monitor duty in a professional recording studio that is under construction.

    Greenboy's new fEARless line of cabs uses a midrange driver that, in my opinion, is a better match for this sort of application.
     

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