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Tuning the Double Bass

Discussion in 'Basses [DB]' started by bucephylus, Dec 22, 2013.


  1. bucephylus

    bucephylus Supporting Member

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    This is, perhaps, a terribly stupid question; but, I'll ask anyhow.

    Tuning my upright with the meter, it is pretty easy to see (and hear) pitch variations of +/- a few centi-Hz, depending on how hard the bow is driving the string. Since these differences are audible, I have often wondered what constitutes correct tuning.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. PaulCannon

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    It's very easy to bend the pitch sharp either with too much pressure or speed. It's much harder to bend flat. Just use a steady speed and not much more weight than the stick itself.
     
  3. flyingpanda96

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    Isnt a stand up bass tuned like a standard electric?
     
  4. Stick_Player

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    It's the other way 'round.

    :cool:
     
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  6. bucephylus

    bucephylus Supporting Member

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    OK. But, when you are playing you are driving the string with similar variations in pressure depending on dynamics. I'm just asking for insight on where to adjust string tension as a function of bow pressure. Setting close to zero bow pressure isn't characteristic of how the instrument is played and would seem to result in the instrument being a few cents sharp while playing.

    Again, maybe I am missing something, because no one, including past teachers ever discussed the point. However, since I can hear it and see it I thought it might be interesting to ask.
     
  7. Ed Fuqua

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    Wait, you can TUNE them?
     
  8. bucephylus

    bucephylus Supporting Member

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    Maybe I should have asked for pointers on acting like its in tune.
     
  9. GrowlerBox

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    It's also not characteristic to play only on open strings, so any other note can be adjusted to compensate for bow speed/pressure, right? Tune the open strings to mf pressure/speed as a sort of middle ground and go from there, I guess.
     
  10. klem.gote

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    Those twisty things at the top. Turn them, stuff happens.
     
  11. Ed Fuqua

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    Does it matter which way?
     
  12. jazzbill

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    Wasn't it already in tune when you bought it?
     
  13. KUNGfuSHERIFF

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    Pff. The bass has no frets for a REASON, people.
     
  14. Fran Diaz

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    Exactly, you need to use your ears to fine tune each note depending on the dynamics.

    No string instrument comes with guaranteed perfect tuning (even pianos go out of tune :eek:). You play guitar or fretted bass and depending on how hard you press the string with your fretting hand and how hard you pluck the tuning can vary a lot.

    That's the way it is. We try our best but it never gets perfect.
     
  15. Ed Fuqua

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    Yes, but some kid turned one of the twisty things and he won't tell me which one!



    Thanks for the set up, by the way.
     
  16. bucephylus

    bucephylus Supporting Member

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    Sheesh; you guys are tough. I guess the answer to my question is a big secret. Thanks:meh:
     
  17. KUNGfuSHERIFF

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    OK, fine. It is Christmas after all...my cheapo Snark tuner bounces around like crazy during the attack phase of the note. It tends to even out if I allow the note to ring without touching it with the bow, or, better still, tune to harmonics.
     
  18. LowG

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    That's why it's best not to play open strings
     
  19. gerry grable

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    And you beat me to it.
    Ha, ha. . .the old club date bass player and the kid joke :)
     
  20. bucephylus

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    Thanks Santa!

    Agreed Harmonics are more representative of the un-driven string. But, you can also get that by tuning pizz. I just had noticed that the driven string is sufficiently sharp as to be noticeable, and didn't find any comments by searching. So, thought to ask. Maybe a mistake.
     
  21. jake3

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    I generally tune using pizzicato as I mostly play that way. The tuner definitely jumps around. I try to disregard the initial attack and see where it settles, then I often use the harmonics to "fine-tune."
     

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