Two neodymium humbuckers?

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  1. Anonymous7

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    Would the magnetic pull be too much for any sustain to be possible?
  2. markanini

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    Depends on how the pickup was designed.
  3. MPU

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    Neodymium pickups don't automatically have any more magnetic string pull than pickups with ceramic or alnico magnets. It's about the design of the pickup, not the magnets themselves.
  4. Anonymous7

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    Elaborate?
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  6. Jared Lash

    Jared Lash Casting out the nines Supporting Member

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    Neodymium magnets obviously have a greater pull than ceramic, alnico, samarium cobalt etc magnets of the same size, but there's nothing that says that the magnets have to be the same size.

    In fact, I would think that would be one of the appeals of building neo pickups - that you could use less magnetic material and thus build more compact designs within a certain casing.

    As far as two neo humbuckers having too much pull, all Dingwall pickups utilize neo magnets and their basses have no issues with sustain, even when using three neo humbuckers as on their Z3 model.
  7. mmbongo

    mmbongo I like turtles. Supporting Member

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    Neo pickups generally have less pull than ceramic and definitely less than Alnico.
  8. maturanesa

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    in general, the neo magnets are placed at the bottom of the pup with an iron blade as pole piece, so the magnetic pull is weaker than placing the neo magnet directly against the string. however, the pull is from average to medium/hard, just like alnico V, it will vary from brand to brand
  9. uOpt

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    All HH Bongos have two neodymimum humbuckers.

    Personally I don't like. I'll either sell the Bongo or put in Alnico or ceramic pickups.
  10. mmbongo

    mmbongo I like turtles. Supporting Member

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    They are propreitary sized pickups. Only another Music Man pickup would fit and they won't sell them seperate.
  11. uOpt

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    No, you can buy the Seymour Duncan SMB-4, available with either active Alnico rods or passive polepieces with ceramic on the bottom.

    Good point on Music Man being stubborn, though. Really a shame.
  12. mmbongo

    mmbongo I like turtles. Supporting Member

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    They may fit, but they are differently shaped. You'll have a gap.

    Here's a proprietary Music Man pickup:

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    Note the curved lip across the top.


    Here's a replacement pickup..no lip:

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  13. mmbongo

    mmbongo I like turtles. Supporting Member

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    Looking at that now I don't think the Duncan would fit without routing, but I'm not sure.
  14. uOpt

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    How so? My stringrays don't look like that, they have the two screw ears in the west.
  15. mmbongo

    mmbongo I like turtles. Supporting Member

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    Sorry I thought you said you had a Bongo:

    "I'll either sell the Bongo or put in Alnico or ceramic pickups."

    Bongo's do not have pickups with the two screw ears (newer Stingrays don't either) but I must have misunderstood that you wanted to replace the pickups in a Bongo.

    Plus, Stingrays don't even have Neo pickups so it's a moot point anyway :)
  16. uOpt

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    Hmm, gotta check the Bongo. I could have sworn the format is the same as the SR4.
  17. mmbongo

    mmbongo I like turtles. Supporting Member

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    Well yes and no. They started the new pickup shape with the Bongo..I got one when they first came out. Soon after, they switched everything to the new shape.

    So yes they do share the format with the SR4 since they all have the new shape now, but the Bongo never had the 'old' shape that older Stingrays used to have. They changed so they could patent the shape, which is why nobody makes a direct replacement.

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