Vantage (Ibanez?) Stingray

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  1. mountainmike

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    Hi, I've been offered a used Vantage branded bass which apart from the headstock looks like a black MM Stingray with maple fretboard. Seller says he paid an ubelievable high price when he bought it new. I'm not sure if moneytalks are forbidden here, but I don't trust his claim. Also, is Vantage made by Ibanez?
  2. mountainmike

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    forgot to mention: said to be bought new in 2003
  3. bassgod0dmw

    bassgod0dmw Supporting Member

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    No. Matsumoku made them
  4. awilkie84

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    Matsumoku didn't make ALL Vantage guitars. Only the early ones. They changed hands for their later 80s/90s stuff & quality went down hill.
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  6. darrenmt

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    Vantage guitars and basses were marketed as affordable/entry level copies of some big name commercial brands. Similar to Fernandez and the likes.... not very high value instruments.
  7. Runnerman

    Runnerman Registered Bass Player Supporting Member

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    2003 is not vintage
  8. chuck norriss

    chuck norriss Supporting Member

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  9. johnson79

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    Maybe some pictures would help.
  10. bigmoosepi

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    I don't think anyone said it was.
  11. mountainmike

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    Thanks so far. First of all: it's about the brand Vantage, not about a vintage item. I've looked into Matsumoku a while ago, as many of us did. Their brands list concludes Vantage indeed, but around 1986 Matsumoku dissolved. About post-Matsumoku Vantage there is nothing I can find. In my life (52yo) I came across some Vantage guitars and basses that weren't very expensive indeed. I tried to post photos but I don't seem to know how. Here's a link: http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/muziek-...a871b0d84f75c3056cc6db858f31&previousPage=lr# Forgive me for displaying numbers, but the link shows them anyway. This bass would have been 785 euros in 2003. That can't be, can it? I can get it for 200, but I think 100 would be more realistic.
  12. Runnerman

    Runnerman Registered Bass Player Supporting Member

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    Matsumoku closed in 1987. I thought someone implied it was Matsumoku....which would be vintage.
  13. bassgod0dmw

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    That would be me, but I didn't say anything about it being vintage.
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  15. southshoreconor

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    "vantage" is not "vintage"
  16. mountainmike

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    Among my 20+ basses and 10+ guitars I have a few Matsus. One of them is a Westone Thunder I passive bass. It's the best bass I ever held in my hands. Got if for 150 euros in the 80's or 90's, but I wouldn't sell it for 3500 euros even. For 4000 I'd sell and get a custom ordered all-black MusicMan Stingray bass. My MM-GAS would be cured, but would it be an upgrade? Brands, quality, money, vintage are not always an indicator for each other. Which gets me back on topic. Would any Vantage have been in any store for 785 euros at any time? What would have been the highest price for any Vantage ever?
  17. darrenmt

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    As mentioned in my previous post, they aren't high dollar guitars. I remember seeing them back in the 90s and the higher priced ones had more cosmetic features as well as better pickups, active preamp, etc. They played alright but IMO were pretty generic sounding and nothing spectacular. Most similar in concept these days would be a Cort although IMO Corts have better build quality.
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  20. Runnerman

    Runnerman Registered Bass Player Supporting Member

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    Many Vantage's are considered vintage.....I've owned them.
    I did not make a spelling misread if that is what you are implying.
  21. bassgod0dmw

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    I think everyone is confused why you said anything about being vintage.

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