1. Welcome to TalkBass 2014! If you're new here, we just went through a major site upgrade. Please post all concerns and bugs to the Forum Usage Issues forum. We will be monitoring that forum. Thank you for all of your feedback.

    The TB Android app is working, you may need to uninstall/reinstall. The iPhone app is now updated and should work after you upgrade. TalkBass is responsive to any screen size, so we recommend using your mobile browser for full functionality.

    Please read the TalkBass 2014 FAQ for lots of great info on the new software.

Vintage Japan or SX?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by heb9_28, Nov 26, 2012.

  1. heb9_28

    heb9_28

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2009
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ok, so I'm looking for a P bass on a budget. I want something with *THUMP* and I'm thinkin' P with flats (or possibly a semi-hollow w/ flats?). I own and have owned Sx basses and think they're great. However I'm intrigued by the vintage Japanese copies. Hondo, Aria, Westone, etc. I know with some diligence I could find a vintage P copy for reasonably close to an SX.

    So, obviously some vintage Japan is better (and more expensive) than others. Is it worth trying to find a solid vintage Japanese bass or going with a SX which could save a little chedda, sill be good, but not be quite as cool?
  2. Nomadskills

    Nomadskills

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2010
    Likes Received:
    0
    To me it really depends on you, your finanical situation, and your goals. I've never played an SX (but know those that do love them) but some vintage basses have the ability to go up in value. It really depends on what "Japanese" basses you're looking at as some are much better then others... Long story short, I would get the best bass you can buy so you can concentrate on other things (gear, practice, ect...).
  3. bassbully

    bassbully Endorsed by The PHALEX CORN BASS..mmm...corn!

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2006
    Likes Received:
    0
    Vintage Japan. I had an vintage Aria jazz copy that was as good in both sound and build as any Fender MIA. Paid $125.00 for it.
  4. NYCbassist

    NYCbassist Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2007
    Likes Received:
    3
    How about a vintage Japan Squier P-Bass or Bullet Bass. I have a '80's bullet with a '70's Fender pickup that has about much balls than any bass I've ever played.
  5. Dan B

    Dan B

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Likes Received:
    0
    I would say go with vintage Japanese. In my opinion, I find them far more interesting than SX basses; don't get me wrong, SXes are quite good but there's something a bit special about vintage Matsumoku basses.
  6. TRichardsbass

    TRichardsbass

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2009
    Likes Received:
    0
    Disclosures:
    F CLEF LLC, Music Industry Consulting and Sales
    "Vintage" Japanese. Not even a close comparison. Japan from about '77 to '86 are better then US at that time.
  7. wolfmancharlie

    wolfmancharlie Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2009
    Likes Received:
    0
    Vintage Japanese Basses by a long shot. Grab a Westone Thunder 1 on ebay for around 300. One of the best p-basses i have ever played. Still have her and a few others from Matsomuko.They are going no where.
  8. jasonbraatz

    jasonbraatz Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2000
    Likes Received:
    1
    The vintage Japan instrument will be of higher quality, and probably play better, but the stock P pickup in an SX sounds pretty darn nice, and with the same set of strings you'd probably be hard pressed to tell the difference sonically.
  9. Flyingfrets

    Flyingfrets

    Joined:
    Dec 25, 2011
    Likes Received:
    0
    The Ibanez "lawsuit" era instruments were outstanding. I've owned several of their Gibson clones (SG, Explorer, Flying v) made in the '74 - '78 period and they got damned close to those grail tones we were all after. I never owned any of their Fender-style stuff but have played enough to know they deliver as well.

    If you can, go for the vintage MIJ over the SX. As most others have said, much better quality, rarer, and a lot of them are already gonna have some real mojo.
  10. bassbully

    bassbully Endorsed by The PHALEX CORN BASS..mmm...corn!

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2006
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yep the MIJ Squier line proved that.
  11. Figjam

    Figjam Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2003
    Likes Received:
    0
    MIJ is great. Squier or Fender if possible. On your budget, try to buy a japanese squier. Might cost you 200-350.
  12. Johnny Crab

    Johnny Crab ACME,QSC,Fame/Hondo/Greco user & BOSE Abuser Gold Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2004
    Likes Received:
    0
    MIJ over SX.
    I've been a really big fan of Greco and Aria. Even some Hondo/FAME series trump Fenders of the same time period.
  13. Marty Forrer

    Marty Forrer

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2000
    Likes Received:
    0
    You have to be very critical here. I've seen Hondos and Westones that were pure crap. Dont buy anything without being able to play it.
  14. Marton

    Marton

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2005
    Likes Received:
    0
    You can pick some old japanese Yamaha with a P pickup for around $250-300. I see a lot of them in the classifieds here.
  15. NYCbassist

    NYCbassist Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2007
    Likes Received:
    3
    Regarding Aria, Is there any thing specific to look for besides MIJ. Best years, Features etc....
  16. lsabina

    lsabina

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2008
    Likes Received:
    0
    Vintage Japan. I have three Squier by Fender Bullet basses (SQ series) and they're great. Prices on them have really jumped over the last couple of years. If you can find one for around $300, grab it.
  17. heb9_28

    heb9_28

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2009
    Likes Received:
    0
    This.

    There are a lot of Aria's out there. Some look great, others not so much. Any helpful info?

Share This Page