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Warmoth deluxe 5 Jazz build - Music Man bridge position help.

Discussion in 'Luthier's Corner' started by Dolando, Nov 15, 2012.


  1. Dolando

    Dolando

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    Hello,

    Im itching to order my warmoth deluxe jazz 5, but I need some help on pickup positioning. I want a music man pickup on the bridge position, but I'm not sure how far away from the bridge this is.

    If someone could show me their warmoth (deluxe 5 jazz would be ideal) with an MM pickup routed in the bridge position that would really help me out. Failing that, a measurement from G saddle to the bridge side edge of the pickup would do.

    Many thanks,

    Adam
     
  2. Musiclogic

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    If you want the Musicman pckups in the Stingray sweet spot, you will want the center of the pickup at 30.5" from the front of the nut, if you want a strong bridge pickup placement with the MM, place the center of the pickup at 31.75
     
  3. Dolando

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    Great, do you know if Warmoth use these these kind of measurements for their pickup routs?

    Thanks,

    Adam
     
  4. Spino

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    So what'S the difference,soundwise between the 2 positions and which would be better for fretless ? Thanks
     
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  6. Dolando

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    I've seen fretless basses with both, but you would get more growl with one at the bridge position, and the music man position would be a bit deeper. I've not had loads of experience with these but that's what ive found.
     
  7. Spino

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  8. Musiclogic

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    I know nothing about what Warmoth does, I don't generally use pre made parts, but I would assume they are accurate.

    As for the 2 different positions, the standard Stingray position has a much fuller rounder tone the bridge position is much more thin sounding
     
  9. Dolando

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    Right, I'm still undecided which to go for. Bridge position or music man. I like the sound of the lakland, I think they have it in the bridge position?
     
  10. Spino

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    What I'd really like to know ..and I did ask on TB but got no response is ...Does anyone know the diff between the early fretted/fretless 1 pup Rays positions (ala Pino )
    and the later 2 pup Rays or if, over the years the positions have actually changed.
    I'm going to have to route for a F'less soon so I'd like to know. Either I 'll stick to the over the harmonics method or use the early Ray fretted position . Wow what a palaver Ha ha !
     
  11. Dolando

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    I'm not sure in your problem, but here is a video of a lakland 55-02 fretless. And this MM pickup is in the bridge position. And you get a nice amount of deep Full sound with the thinner low mid sound.



    This is what I'm going for, but for a fretted.
     
  12. Spino

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    I don't have a problem it's just a lack of information.The question is what is the optimal position for a 1 pup fretless bass ? I like the sound of the Ray but can't get anyone to give me a measurement .
     
  13. Dolando

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    This was posted a bit earlier. Is this what ou need?
     
  14. Musiclogic

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    And he missed this too, I guess you are supposed to pm the answers to his phone.....LOL
     
  15. Dolando

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    Haha maybe...

    I've decided on MM in bridge position with a single J on the neck. Think ill get this ordered pretty soon. :)
     
  16. Spino

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    Oh! you guys are real presumptuous smart-asses !!! I was trying to get a discussion going and possibly a list of tried and tested pickup positions that everyone could refer to .For instance ,why are the standard JB positions over the 2 weak harmonics when theres a much stronger one right in between which would maybe be better for a 1 pup fretless ?
    But you know I'll find my answers elsewhere in future .Finger !!!
     
  17. Dolando

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    Take your key out, We were only joking around, No need to get all angry and offensive about it.
     

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