Where is Fender getting all these BadAss bridges?

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by emblymouse, Jan 17, 2014.

  1. emblymouse

    emblymouse Supporting Member

    Jan 22, 2006
    W' Sconsin
    Endorsing Artist Lakland**Bag End**Schroeder
    I thought they were no longer being made? Now almost $100 a pop?
  2. SlingBass4


    Feb 28, 2009
    Kansas City
    Go for a Gotoh 201 - high mass, have screws that don't need constant adjustment, more vintage look, and half the price :smug:
  3. +1 on the Gotoh 201. It's a drop in replacement on basses that use a Fender style bent metal bridge. It's a snap to intonate the bass once the bridge is installed.
  4. I believe the OP was more curious about what happened to Leo Quan, and where Fender is getting the bridges from. As far as I know, Fender either purchased the company, or the rights to the name/design.
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  6. aparker82


    Sep 19, 2012
    Do they have a drop in replacement for a 5 string squier?
  7. This is also my understanding based on what I have read elsewhere on TB. Certainly would not be the first time Fender has gobbled up a smaller company (SWR, for instance).
  8. GM60466


    May 20, 2006
    Land of Lakland
    Leo is still doing his own thing. The new Dimension bridge is Fender's design.
  9. If "they" is Gotoh, then, from what I see on the website, I don't think so.

    The have the 205B-5, but I don't think the screw pattern matches any of the Squires:


    The one we were talking about is the 210B-4, which does trade right out on a 4-string Fender:

  10. Not so sure of that. The Leo Quan website doesn't even exist anymore.
  11. elgranluis


    Feb 14, 2003
    El paso, TX
    actually, leo quann passed away a few years ago!
  12. inate_hex


    Apr 4, 2010
    Manchester, England
    I occasionally wet the bed.
    Fender now own the rights to the design
  13. godofthunder59

    godofthunder59 God of Thunder and Rock and Roll Supporting Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    Rochester NY USA
    Endorsing Cataldo Basses, Whirlwind products, Thunderbucker pickups
    Bingo! Leo passed away and Fender now owns the rights.
  14. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 17, 2010
    Houston Tx
    Owner/Builder @Hopkins Guitars
    I seriously doubt they own the rights to the design, seeing as though they changed every aspect of it. Its more likely that they just came up with something very similar on their own.

    Picture borrowed from another thread
  15. M.R. Ogle

    M.R. Ogle Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 5, 2004
    Mount Vernon, Illinois
    Backstage Guitar Lab owner
    Is Fender actually calling them "BadAsses?" I agree, it looks similar, but not exact.

    Maybe they bought rights to the name?
  16. Hopkins

    Hopkins Supporting Member Commercial User

    Nov 17, 2010
    Houston Tx
    Owner/Builder @Hopkins Guitars

    They are just calling it a 4 saddle Fender Hi-Mass. Check the specs on the Dimension bass. My best guess is, because they used the BAII on a lot of their sig model basses, and that the BAII is not being made anymore, they had to come up with their own design that is similar in form and function.

  17. The rumor I heard, from prior to the passing of Leo Q., was that Fender had the original molds on loan as the BAII was on many sig basses.

    The LQ BAII molds were lost by Fender.

    No molds, no more product, they had to buy the company as compensation for their to Leo for the loss of the molds.

    Can't back it up with hard data as it was word of mouth from a Custom Shop dealer I knew.
  18. Kmonk


    Oct 18, 2012
    South Shore, Massachusetts
    Endorsing Artist: Fender, Spector, Ampeg, Curt Mangan Strings
    I recently read that Leo Quan made a strategic decision to stop selling their bridges on the retail market and is now selling strictly to manufacturers. The reasoning was that they could sell bridges by the truckload to builders rather than waiting for one sale at a time through retail outlets.
  19. LM Bass

    LM Bass

    Jul 19, 2002
    Vancouver, BC
    Glen Quan is his real name, and he changed it to Leo out of his love for Fender. That's what I heard anyway.
  20. smcd


    Jun 28, 2009
    Boston, MA
    Very very very unlikely. Fender doesn't operate a foundry. If they were to have the molds on "loan", production would take place in a facility that specialized in casting metal. If the molds were on loan, they would be insured. If lost, they'd be replaced. There's nothing irreplaceable about a mold. In fact, the molds have surely been replaced more than once over the years. Molds wear out, just like everything else, and it's improbable that the same mold has been producing Badass bridges for 40 years.

    But that all presumes that LQ's company would loan the molds that make their signature product out to a 3rd party chosen by Fender. This would never ever happen. There's no business sense to doing something like that.
  21. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    Groom Lake, NV
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Too much logic.