Which DI for my direct/IEM board?

Discussion in 'Live Sound [BG]' started by SteveC, Nov 12, 2012.


  1. SteveC

    SteveC

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    Hey all. We're going IEM at church. I have everything for my little IEM/DI board except the DI.

    I'm using a Boss TU-2, a Rolls PM50 amp and Yamaha EPH 50 ear buds. Not super high end but does the job.

    Anyway, I'm playing a passive Geddy Lee these days and am wondering if I need to have an active DI. The cable runs aren't very long.

    Thoughts?
  2. MNAirHead

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    your PM 50 is a DI...

    MXR M80 is a durable and affordable di
  3. MNAirHead

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    Line 6 pods are very well represented in the church circles... so are zoom b2
  4. David A. Davis

    David A. Davis Supporting Member

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    Radial J48. I run a JDI and love it. The rule of thumb with D.I's, passive bass=active box, active bass= passive box.
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  6. SteveC

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    I'm not looking for effects and pres - at least not at this time. Just a DI.
  7. SteveC

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    I was thinking J48...
  8. bassgod0dmw

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    Countryman Type 85 or the J48 would be a great option. I'd go for the Countryman personally. I've got one and it sounds great. It can take phantom power or a battery, I believe the J48 is phantom only.
  9. georgestrings

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    I agree with this 100% - the J48 and Countryman are both great active DIs, but the 9v option was the deciding factor for me - I use my DI as a "backup amp", and didn't want to be dependant on phantom power if I needed to press it into service... If you shop around, a used Countryman 85 can be had for around $100 - it's tough to spend better money than that as a gigging bassist, IMO...

    Lastly - I used a JDI quite a bit for over a year, and switched to active DIs because the JDI didn't work as well with a couple of my passive Fenders - the Countryman works great with my passives and actives...


    - georgestrings
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    Although I feel the J48 and JDI are industry standards for good reason, I'm less than impressed with the Pro48 or ProDI - IMO/IME, those aren't any better than DIs by Whirlwind, Rapco, EWI, or even Behringer - and not worth the additional cost... I'll take my used Countryman 85 for $100 over a Pro48 for nearly the same money, every time...


    - georgestrings
  12. MNAirHead

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    Opinion - if you're playing churches


    1- don't rely on having a supplied phantom power

    2-some type of tone/eq etc is really helpful as the rooms are commonly lacking acoustic treatment
  13. SteveC

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    I play at one church. There is phantom power on all boards.

    Do I need more EQ than what is available on the board?
  14. MNAirHead

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    If you play at other churches they may not have (or know about) phantom power

    eq----- yes ..... I can't tell you the number of times I've had my bass turned down on my bass .... And still asked to turn down
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    Eq.... Churches have notoriously bad acoustic treatments .... Commonly they're tuned to a natural male voice ---a bass will conflict with this
  16. SteveC

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    So I played at church and a "corporate" gig yesterday. Used the wired IEM System of Boss TU-2, Rolls PM50 and Yamaha EPH50 single driver buds. Sounded pretty darn good. Better at the corporate gig - had a better board and a better (Radial JDI) DI as well.

    The experience with the better board (PreSonus which we will have at church - my main gig - soon) and DI got me thinking I shouldn't skimp on my DI. I was thinking of a Radial JDI or J48, but after using a JDI with my passive Geddy with great results, I'm thinking I could go JDI without worry.

    I was originally thinking of using a small board that would have my Tuner, Rolls and DI all wired up/powered up ready to go so I'd just have to plug in the DI out, Monitor In, my bass and earphones and be ready to go in 2 minutes.

    Now, I have also liked using an Avalon U5. It's big and not travel friendly, but I really only play at church so it's not in the band van getting roughed up. A little board would be easier and more convenient, but if I'm using IEM I want to get the best sound I can to my ears. I also want to get as good a sound as possible sent to the FOH.

    Any ideas how I could use the Avalon but in a convenient way like a small pedal board? I know it's not possible, but thought I'd ask.
  17. SteveC

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    I could also use my Shuttle 3.0 head as a DI. Would fit on a board as well.
  18. SteveC

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    Radial JDI is my favorite at this point. Still debating an Avalon U5 but think convenience and small size/weight will win the day.
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  20. SteveC

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    Gonna try a JDI for a series of gigs the weekend to be sure, but I think I'm going with one for my little IEM board.
  21. newbold

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    my eden WTDI needs its own power but its compressor is great to work like a speaker and you can eq it to your delight.

    or not and run it as a buffered/active DI.

    i like mine a lot.

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