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Why have a low c# string?

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by Dragzole, Dec 11, 2013.


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  1. Dragzole

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    Id like to know the function of the low c# string, since its below human hearing its possible use baffles me, but i'm sure there's some reason.:bassist:
     
  2. CnB77

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    You would use it when you want to play a low C# hope this helps
     
  3. MonkeyBass

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    Got me. All you're hearing are the overtones and I doubt an amp can reproduce it.
     
  4. JAUQO III-X

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    None of the above is true at all.


    Here are some tracks from my first solo CD The Low C# Theory. If possible give the tracks a listen with headphones.

     
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  6. BioWeapon

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    Sweet sound :O
    I guess that basically answers everything.
     
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    Here we go again. (Not you, Jauqo, you're cool)
     
  8. JAUQO III-X

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    Thanks.


    Thank you.



    I only posted the tracks in hopes that people will be open to checking out what can be done with a bass with a low C# string on it.

    It really comes down to the individual, playing that low is not for every one but it's definitely an option.
     
  9. BioWeapon

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    I think I'm going to restring my fiver now :D
     
  10. JAUQO III-X

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    :)
     
  11. MonkeyBass

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    What you're hearing are the overtones.

    Go read an acoustics book.
     
  12. JAUQO III-X

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    What I'm hearing are notes.

    I'm not going to get into an argument over what I'm able to hear.

    And for the record those books on acoustics mean nothing when I'm in the actual midst of creating.
     
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    Come on now, you can't make an authoritative statement like "None of the above is true at all." and then try and backpedal your way out of factual error by getting vague and "creative." That's just intellectually lazy, if not dishonest.

    edit: even worse when people have already explained it you, at length http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f16/low-c-clarity-771240/
     
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    I believe Jauqo when he says he can "hear" the fundamental - just as I believe you when you say you can't.

    "Hearing" is a psychological as well as a physical phenomenon.
    In addition, I expect there is a variation in hearing ability as there is a variation in other physical attributes.

    To address the OP question - I have had 7 and 8 string basses strung with a low C sharp. Perhaps my basses were not capable of producing a satisfactory low C sharp. In my experience in ensemble playing the low C sharp just muddied the mix, but, for solo playing it offers an interesting dimension of sound.

    My take on the question.

    RJM
     
  15. Geri O

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    So?

    Why?

    Geri O
     
  16. JAUQO III-X

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    No I am not back pedaling out of anything.


    I stand by what I said.



    If I hear the note then I hear it, it can not be disputed.

    Just becasue a few books says that you can't hear 17hz means nothing to me becasue I know that every ones ears are not the same.

    And for the naysayers did it ever cross your mind that at one time inexperienced ears claimed that the open low B on a bass couldn't be heard.





    The real question for the naysayers is what would you say if you didn't know that the open string on the recordings(in the links in post #4) where C#?
     
  17. CnB77

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    What equipment do you think you're hearing 17hz through? Looking at your profile you mention Ashdown and EA cabs. Glancing at their sites, neither makes a cab that can reproduce that tone, and it looks like EAs get there after the first harmonic and Ashdown can't touch it until just after the third. It sounds an awful lot like you're not actually hearing a low C#, just the overtones of it (which are higher C#s).

    You're still handwaving away reality in favor of "I know this is true because I've convinced myself it's true because I know it's true."
     
  18. JAUQO III-X

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    When I recorded both cd's the engineer was experienced but he had never recorded bass with that frequency and texture but I have to give it to him he just chilled and allowed what happen to happen.





    Why can't it just be that the open C# is just that, a open C# and if you're hearing with a million harmonic over tones or nonoe, you are still getting the low C# ;)



    It's all in the mix.
     
  19. CnB77

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    Please just answer my question.
     
  20. wes stephenson

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    CnB77, dude let this man play his instruments and have his opinions. Who are you anyways...
     
  21. JAUQO III-X

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    I think you already answered the question.


    I wouldn't know what I was talking about any way.
     

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