The youth band I was in when I was in youth, we sort of lacked any form of seriousness. Frustration from the worship leader showed because we would practice the same part over and for and over until we got it right. My final year in twelfth grade was when it was actually concrete: the drummer, elec guitarist, and myself as a bassist formed the basis and the worship leader was so apply with that. He mentioned later that us three were the best he's ever gotten. Now I look at them now after graduating youth: that lack of seriousness shows. New leader, new members. The drummer always puts himself down, saying he sucks so much. Kinda hard to hear him say that because he can keep the beat almost always unless he gets too showy. The electric guitarist is really good but she lacks that knowledge of what to play in certain areas of a song. The bassist, I help her out a lot indirectly since I don't go to their practices (im not a teacher or volunteer) but she lacks the band mentality. I wish I could help them out but I am an outsider. I am not a volunteer or teacher so I feel like I have no right to intervene. I want them to get better for their benefit, not for me...but I feel a struggle. And let's not even mention the college praise band I was in.