Would you be interested in approx. 25lb 4x10 or 16lb 2x10 (sound in the vein of a Ber

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Would you be interested in approx. 25lb 4x10 or 16lb 2x10 (sound in the vein of a Ber

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  1. Yes

    57 vote(s)
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  2. Yes if it was not over the price of the average price of other high end 4x10s

    54 vote(s)
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  3. No

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  1. TonyP-

    TonyP- Excuse me but you have your I-IV-V in my II-V-I Gold Supporting Member

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    Would you be interested in approx. 25lb 4x10 or 16lb 2x10 (sound in the vein of a Bergantino & Epi)
  2. Freddels

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    I want a sealed 410. :)
  3. TonyP-

    TonyP- Excuse me but you have your I-IV-V in my II-V-I Gold Supporting Member

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    Hhhhmm...How about front ported?:smug:
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    One of the lightest 10's I can find weighs 3.5 pounds, so 14 for 4 of them. How do you propose to build a properly supported cab around them that only weighs 11 pounds? If you could, why would anyone pay for the technology for the composite material to build such a cab, when it uses a poor design like a 410?
  7. Freddels

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    Nope. I've got ported already.
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    TonyP- Excuse me but you have your I-IV-V in my II-V-I Gold Supporting Member

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    I like the Fearful designs...but I disagree with the 410 being a poor design. I think that discussion if valid one if You disagree, but respectfully I would ask that be on another thread.

    Just to clarify (4) 10s would be for a 25lb cabinet. (Hypothetically :bag:)
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    That's one hell of a hypothesis!
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    +1

    You are looking at around 14 pounds for the four drivers. How are you going to build a properly braced cabinet for them with the remaining 11 pounds? And why would anyone pay for that premium material for the design/performance aspect of a 410?
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    My 2x12 sits in at 48 pounds and my single 12 is at 26 pounds and I think they are light! If you could pound out high quality tone, great wattage capability and a good price, I would check them out..
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    TonyP- Excuse me but you have your I-IV-V in my II-V-I Gold Supporting Member

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    I'm not the builder so from a technically standpoint I cannot answer.

    Why do people people pay $1125 for a non-neo 410?
    Answer: Because they want them. Plain and simple.
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    Of course, but when I look at my lightweight Berg AE210's, I cant imagine how to cut the weight by more than 1/2. They already have NEO speakers, thin wood, etc.

    I really don't think it is possible.

    Right away 3-5lbs per speaker kills the dream.
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    TonyP- Excuse me but you have your I-IV-V in my II-V-I Gold Supporting Member

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    Are you sure of that ;)

    Edit: I don't want to sound facetious in any way. All I'm saying is don't get stuck on what you think
    some components way.

    I come in peace :)
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    So even 2 3lb speakers would leave 10lbs for wood, crossover, hardware, tolex, grille, etc.

    Pretty sure it currently can't be done in a way that would sound great.

    My boss asks me every month when I roll up forecast #'s "would you bet your career on this?"

    In this case, I wouldn't!
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    Using alternate material to wood (Fiberglass?) and alternate bracing, you might be able to accomplish this. It would be VERY expensive.
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    TonyP- Excuse me but you have your I-IV-V in my II-V-I Gold Supporting Member

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    Hi John
    Yep your correct.
    Not sure on the expensive part (seriously).
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    Even the composite crazy88 cabs weigh in at a little over 20lbs, iirc.
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    +1

    Thats with 8" drivers of known weight too.

    I am very curious to find out what type of material would allow this type of weight claim. Could be revolutionary if such a material exists that can be had at reasonable prices.
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    Not intending to poke any fun at the OP, but...


    This Criley-Core prototype weighed less than 2 lbs. :D
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    Got a line on some affordable carbon fiber?...perhaps fused with helium?

    How about some of that nano-tech stuff they are using to build the space elevator?

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