'08 Fender Bodies MIA same as MIM

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by Groover, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. Groover


    Jun 28, 2005
    Ohio, USA
    Looks like up to '08 fender bass bodies differed a little in routing depending on country (MIA, MIM, MIJ)

    I was comparing a standard MIA precision body to a MIM precision body... same exact routing, only difference is the string thru on the MIA...

    Is it safe to say MIA and MIM bodies are actually being cut in the same place?
  2. UncleBalsamic


    Jul 8, 2007
    Not necessarily.
  3. therex

    therex Guest

    Jun 24, 2007
    i doubt it buy it could be posible
  4. CapnSev


    Aug 19, 2006
    Coeur d'Alene
    Usually a MIM body is several pieces glued together, sometimes with wood-filler to fill in the gaps. Sometimes it's not. You never know.

    MIA bodies are almost always one to three piece bodies with pretty high grade wood.
  5. Someone else can confirm but I don't think any MIA's, or any decent guitar anywhere has a body made of a single piece of wood (except maybe esoteric boutiques). Not only is it a lot more expensive and wasteful to use one piece but two pieces laminated together are actually stronger and less likely to warp.
  6. CapnSev


    Aug 19, 2006
    Coeur d'Alene
    Depends on the model I think. I'm sure I've seen it done before.
  7. lefty007


    Jan 19, 2004
    Miami, FL
    News to me. I've had over 20 MIA Fender in my life, and all of them have been at least 3-piece.

    I've had at least 5 newer sunburst MIA Fenders and all of them were three pieces, and Fender doens't have high standards for grain matching either.

    Although I agree that MIAs have much better quality woods. The alder on newer MIA is very light and resonant.
  8. CapnSev


    Aug 19, 2006
    Coeur d'Alene
    I had a '75 reissue that I could have sworn the body was 1 piece. It was either that or the seam on it was flawless.
  9. Sleeq


    Feb 13, 2008
    MIA's are mostly 3 peice and the occaisional 2 piece (if ash).

    MIM's are mostly made of 4 or more peices.
  10. Bongolation


    Nov 9, 2001
    No Bogus Endorsements
    FMIC has told me that no production MIA has a one-piece body.

    Two-piece are increasingly rare. When the "American" series came out in late 2000, in their temporary upgrading of the model to generate buzz, many premium-wood ash bodies were two-piece, but within a year they were back to three-piece. I have a beautiful two-piece ash HRPB.

    MIMs and H1s have bodies that are made up of more pieces (3-6) of more dissimilar woods.
  11. DonovanBankhead

    DonovanBankhead Inactive Commercial User

    Aug 25, 2001
    Springfield, MO
    Owner - FretSpot.com; Vice President - Springfield Music
    They do not use the same bodies. I was in both the MIA and the MIM factory in October and personally saw bass bodies being cut, sanded, etc.
  12. Same here on my CS 59 P and AV 57 P -- both sunbursts, both don't appear to have seams. If they do Fender did a great job of hiding them.
  13. Bongolation


    Nov 9, 2001
    No Bogus Endorsements
    1: Custom Shop output is not "production." It may (but probably doesn't) have a one-piece body.

    2: It is virtually impossible to find the seam on a sunburst because the end-grain, where the seam will show, is covered. Remember that the visible-grain ash-bodied production instruments had a $150 MSRP upcharge simply for the matching.

    All -- 100% -- of the alleged "one piece" Fender bodies owners claim to have that I have seen are two or three piece.

    If FMIC tells me there have never been any one-piece FMIC production bodies, I think it's probably more than likely that the statement is true.
  14. I have no idea, I just know they're both pretty to look at, comfortable to play, and sound great. :D
  15. lordcorn


    May 12, 2008
    mims are great, i love both of my j's
    but the routing on the mia is much more precise and clean on my mia
  16. Bongolation


    Nov 9, 2001
    No Bogus Endorsements
    There have been periods in the past when pre-finish work and CNT cutting for MIM and MIA production have been on opposite sides of the border, as production routine is very fluid at FMIC, but with the exception of the H1, the MIA and MIM bodies have never been the same.
  17. Jim Carr

    Jim Carr Dr. Jim

    Jan 21, 2006
    Denton, TX or Kailua, HI
    fEARful Kool-Aid dispensing liberal academic card-carrying union member Musicians Local 72-147
    Let's see--same machines, same program and data, different wood--we have bodies cut the same from different wood. Big deal. The bottom line is simply how does it sound, IMHO. Pick one by hand or roll the dice. You choose.
  18. Bongolation


    Nov 9, 2001
    No Bogus Endorsements
    "I had the pleasure of attending a tour in the month of April 2001."

    The information there is very outdated. April 2001 might as well be the Middle Ages when it comes to FMIC production routines. Really. They never stop moving production back and forth on stuff and changing the way components are sourced and instruments built.
  19. Bongolation


    Nov 9, 2001
    No Bogus Endorsements
    The bottom line is comparative production cost relative to retail price, too.

    When I was current with FMIC's production, the then-"American" series blanks were supposedly made from two or three pieces cut from the same plank of wood.

    The MIM-grade bodies were made from 3-6 random scrap pieces.

    Which blank will probably have the better or a least more predictable tonal qualities? Which one would you feel justified in paying more for?