1/2 Rounds / Ground Wounds: 2 ?s

Discussion in 'Strings [BG]' started by MarkM13, Jun 27, 2018.

  1. MarkM13

    MarkM13

    Mar 29, 2015
    CT - USA
    Greetings,

    My favorite strings are EB Cobalt Flats. However, slapping on them is a compromise. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with ground wounds (I'm considering the D'Addarios) in a slap setting. Also, can they be strung through the body w/o damaging them?

    Thanks,
    Mark
     
  2. SLaPiNFuNK

    SLaPiNFuNK Inactive Commercial User

    Jul 28, 2006
    LA California
    The Brains: FretNation.com
    Yes string thru body is fine. Just make sure length is correct.

    What don't you like about slapping on the cobalt flats?
     
  3. MarkM13

    MarkM13

    Mar 29, 2015
    CT - USA
    Can't get a clear "Pop" out of the 'D' string and the E/B are really dark when slapped. I have an outboard pre to compensate but still...

    FWIW, I've been using DR Low Riders on one bass and the Cobalts for the other. As far as rounds go the Low Riders are my favorite. Just have been curious about the 1/2 wound.
     
  4. SLaPiNFuNK

    SLaPiNFuNK Inactive Commercial User

    Jul 28, 2006
    LA California
    The Brains: FretNation.com
    The half rounds are not going to be as brilliant either.

    They will respond differently but you will need a lighter gauge of either string to get more snap out of the D.

    Which gauges are you using for the flats.
     
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  5. MarkM13

    MarkM13

    Mar 29, 2015
    CT - USA
    45-130 (65 D)
     
  6. SLaPiNFuNK

    SLaPiNFuNK Inactive Commercial User

    Jul 28, 2006
    LA California
    The Brains: FretNation.com
    I'd grab a .060 cobalt flat before getting another set of something different. If that is the only problem..

    This will make the d and g string have very similar tension
     
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  7. MarkM13

    MarkM13

    Mar 29, 2015
    CT - USA
    Ahh, never thought of that! Thanks. I'll be placing an order soon. Can you get the Cobalt Flat Singles? I know it was a problem in the past.
     
  8. MarkM13

    MarkM13

    Mar 29, 2015
    CT - USA
    Great info. Thanks, I'm going to extensively A/B slapping the EBs and DRs over the next day or so. I've got a new (to me) bass coming and I want to start with some fresh strings and a setup. I'll decide and then order over the weekend.
    As always, thanks for your help.

    Mark
     
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  9. SLaPiNFuNK

    SLaPiNFuNK Inactive Commercial User

    Jul 28, 2006
    LA California
    The Brains: FretNation.com
    Anytime
     
  10. I'm not a slapper and I don't have any experience with half-rounds...just yet.

    That said, I've just ordered a set of light-gauge GHS Brite Flats L3075 (45-56-77-98), which are goundwound Alloy 52 (nickel-iron).

    I've chosen the GHS Brite Flats over the D'Addario Half-rounds for a couple of reasons...
    • The nickel-iron alloy used for the wrap wire on the Brite Flats are more responsive dynamically due to its highly magnetically active properties compared to the D'A HRs, which are pure nickel.
    • I like the way the factory sets for the GHS BFs are better-balanced in terms of overall tension, especially the light set with a 56-D. When you combine the light-gauge 4-string set with a single 129-B, you end up with a nicely balanced 5-string set.
    Brite Flats L3075 + single 129B:

    G 045 - 38.3
    D 056 - 35.9
    A 077 - 39.3
    E 098 - 38.8
    B 129 - 36.4 (Total: 188.7 lbs.)
    Just a suggestion...

    EDIT: By the way, the GHS Brite Flats have a winding length (ball end to taper/silk) of 38", which would be plenty long enough for thru-body stringing.
     
  11. LoTone

    LoTone Clean as an Entwistle... Supporting Member

    Nov 4, 2010
    Quebec, Canada
    I don't think that groundwounds are the way to go for slapping. How about some EB Cobalt rounds or any stainless steel rounds for that matter?

    Personally. I hate the rough feel of groundwounds.
     
  12. DavC

    DavC

    May 17, 2005
    Tallmadge , Ohio
    grounds = never ever

    smoother alt ... Pressurewounds ..!!
     
  13. Joedog

    Joedog

    Jan 28, 2010
    Pensacola FL
    Have to disagree. My D'A Half (ground) Rounds are WAY smoother than my PW's. Love them both.
     
  14. -Asdfgh-

    -Asdfgh-

    Apr 13, 2010
    UK
    I suppose it depends what sort of sound you want for slap. I've done it with TI flats before, and it works after a fashion, but is a much darker sound.
     
  15. DaveAceofBass

    DaveAceofBass Supporting Member

    Feb 20, 2004
    Charlotte, NC
    Yup. I did this with Chromes. Big improvement!
     
  16. Chromes are bright enough to slap/pop with. Just turn up the tone and have at it. :laugh:
     
  17. MrLenny1

    MrLenny1

    Jan 17, 2009
    New England
    I've run half rounds several times. They don't do slap well IME.
     
  18. MarkM13

    MarkM13

    Mar 29, 2015
    CT - USA
    I love Chromes. But, they are so stiff my fingers ache after a gig. I wish they made a lower tension version. Not that favor low tension string, in fact I don't like them. But, the Chomes were just too much. I found the Cobalt flats while looking for an alternative.
     
  19. If you're talking about the ECB81 set, 45-65-80-100, you're right, the G and D are pretty tense. I've used the ECB84, 40-60-80-100, in the past and they were a lot more manageable in terms of overall stiffness.

    Or, even better, you can put together a custom light set, 40-55-75-95:

    D'Addario Chromes Flatwound Single Bass Strings - Long Scale