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$1000 for an amp+cab, recommend me some.

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by 127.0.0.1, Oct 15, 2005.


  1. 127.0.0.1

    127.0.0.1

    Feb 21, 2005
    Hey, so our church has decided to get a bass amp of its own. The budget is $1000, what should we buy? Note that we play contemporary Christian music - stuff like Switchfoot.

    Used or new, doesn't matter, although we prefer used so that the value doesn't go down as much.

    One of the bassists already liked an Ampeg SVT4.
     
  2. xb100

    xb100

    Mar 24, 2004
    NH, In
    Check out a kustom groove bass 1200 and a avatar 212. That rig would go for about 900$. You can also check into getting a used peavey firebass along with an avatar cab. Check out what Dave has here.


    -Rob
     
  3. playmybass

    playmybass

    Mar 28, 2004
    Tucson, Az
    An SVT4 is over 1000 dollars alone.
     
  4. 127.0.0.1

    127.0.0.1

    Feb 21, 2005
    Used? but I know it leaves too little money for the cab. That's why we are seeking alternatives.

    I still dunno how much wattage we need, although the stage is pretty much controlled volume-wise (no guitar halfstacks, just a 50 watt all tube Soul-0 50 amp... and that's run clean/slight overdrive most of the time)
     
  5. bass_extremes

    bass_extremes

    Jul 9, 2005
    Why dont you get a combo? or is there a reason you want to go head/cab setup?
     
  6. 127.0.0.1

    127.0.0.1

    Feb 21, 2005
    Anything is good. But I suspect a combo might not be loud enough, no?
     
  7. Plain Old Me

    Plain Old Me

    Dec 14, 2004
    For $1000 I got my Mesa 400+ with a 215 cab. New, you could get a Traynor YBA-200, a Kustom Groovebass, a good GK, or a Yorkville 800 and have enough for an Avatar cab.
     
  8. Combos of similar wattage will have similar volumes to head/cab setups. I'd check out that Groovebass/Avatar idea. That 50 watt all tube amp probably gets pretty substantially loud.
     
  9. bass_drum

    bass_drum

    Feb 13, 2005
    Alberta,Canada
    Isnt the kustom groovebass the amp that can put out 1200 watts?
     
  10. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla Supporting Member

    That's the one and it's the best value out there if you are looking at buying new vs used...
     
  11. Plain Old Me

    Plain Old Me

    Dec 14, 2004
    Not necessarily, there are others as I have listed. If you want the most watts vs $, thenthe Groovebass is your amp, but I don't think you need 1200 watts for a church...
     
  12. thejohnkim

    thejohnkim

    Sep 30, 2003
    NYC
    ehhh.... i use 1200 watts at my church and it barely gets past the first 10 rows without PA support.

    it always depends on the room, and cab along with power ratings.....

    $1000?

    i think for that price range avatar is a good choice if you need to buy new.

    their Neo 4x10" along with the Ashwodn MAG 600R would be $900ish.

    it's always a good idea to visit your local guitar center (assuming you have one) to see what deals they have and if they have any good used pieces at the moment
     
  13. You can get used GK 800 RB or 1000RB for $400.00. Then Avatar cabs of your choice.

    I have a 15 and a 12 from Avatar for under 500.00

    Dave is great to talk, to great service too.
     
  14. illidian

    illidian

    Jul 2, 2004
    I have used a GK Backline 600 with a Genz-Benz LS-210T for my Church gig without any problems.

    I run about 200 watts (RMS), no PA support, and fill up the 500+ seating area nicely and get compliments from people in all areas.


    When dealing with numerous bassists, try to find a not-as-colored tone. This way not all the bassists will be stuck with an Ampeg and will all sound the same.

    A good amp IMO would be a Genz-Benz GBE400 or GBE600. They both have tons of tonal options. I've seen the GBE400 for $400 and less used, and the GBE600 for $500 (shipped) and up. These amps are very versatile, fairly uncolored (they have some coloration, but let the bass and cabs speak), and sound great.

    For a cabinet, everyone around here loves Avatar. A 2x12 to start with, and maybe a 2x10 to throw on top.
     
  15. 127.0.0.1

    127.0.0.1

    Feb 21, 2005
    Well some months ago we used a SWR Workingman's 4004 (400 watts @ 4 ohm) with SWR 4x10 and it was fine, can be heard and all (It wasn't ours though). We have a PA support over everything. Oh and that 50 watts all tube guitar combo is never turned up all the way - more like half or so.

    FWIW my bass is a MM Sterling while the other guys' basses are Ibanez SR405, SR505, and a Yamaha 5 string RBX series (forgot the number). Yeah I'm the only 4-banger :D
     
  16. ricosuave2093

    ricosuave2093

    Jun 9, 2005
    Oregon
    I use the Kustom GB1200 $469.99 and the Avata B410Pro at 4ohm $431 =$900.99 I play mostly at church although if your going with one cab I would serioustly consider the B212Delta and later toss a 210 on it. Just my 2 cents. Good luck.
     
  17. Wesley R

    Wesley R Supporting Member

    a budget priced flexible pre-amp, decent used 200-300, decent clean power amp ( a ton of them to choose from)at 300-400. Leaves you 300-500 for speakers, new Avatars or most any bang for the buck.

    But I still like combos and yes I know all the reasons not too like them. amybe even a "small" one and a DI box. Save the church a little coin.

    Best of Luck,
    Wesley R.
     
  18. afroman

    afroman

    Aug 31, 2000
    Brooklyn, NY
    I'd say:

    BBE BMAX preamp
    Carvin DCM1000 power amp or QSC RMX 1850
    Avatar cab (410, 212)

    You'd have a very good setup. Way better than any SVT4 IMO. And later on maybe you can add a better cab, but Avatars are highly regarded here in TB.

    Peace...
     

  19. Man...That sounds alot like my setup( Yamaha PBA Pre > QSC RMX1850 > Avatar 4x10) It'll fill up just about anything...But I've gotta move it so it's going bye-bye(too darn heavy)...I'd recommend you going towards the Pre-Power route...I spent $475 on my rack setup and I've got power to spare... And another +1 for the Avatar Cabs...You can't go wrong with 'em, Dave's Top Notch

    DWB