I just picked up an Aguilar TH500 and I now see what all the fuss is about this head. I’m able to get full power out of it through a 4ohm 15” cab and it’s thunderous. I’m looking to buy a smaller, more portable cab. From what I’ve read here, I should get an 8ohm cab, so I can add another later. I’ve got a budget in the range of $300-650 and I’m eying the following used gear to stretch my $$$: - older Bergantino HT112 (Silver grille) - concerns: could be very old, hard to pair in the future - older Aguilar GS112 - concerns: volume of 112 may not be enough for me, but priced right and easy to find another GS112 later - more recent Aguilar DB112 - concerns: same as above, also have read concerns about weight and being too mid forward - Wayne Jones passive 2 x10 - concerns: not enough power from TH500 at 8ohms I play a EBMM Stingray, playing funk rock mostly with a fairly loud drummer. Any advice appreciated!
If you plan to add a second cab later, your best bet will be to get one that's identical to the first, so you might keep that in mind if you're looking now at something old that isn't easier to find. Personally, I'm a big fan of two vertically stacked 2x10s because of the height, which gets some speakers up closer to your ears so you can hear yourself when playing with a band. (It also gets your amp up closer to eye level for easy access.) A matching pair of 1x12s would probably be adequate for most purposes, but they just don't stack as tall. Just my $.02 worth.
I'd vote GS112x2. The pair put out and are a great cab for funk. When you double your 12", the output becomes greater than the sum of the two. If your drummer is loud, you'd need a stout 2x10" at bare minimum. IMHO
If you like the tone of your 15", maybe a 1x12 wound be better than a 2x10. 10" speakers usually give a different tone and more focused dispersion than larger speakers, although there are some exceptional 10" speakers that break away from this generality. 12" is generally the "best compromise" between the two.
That’s what I was thinking, too. But those Wayne Jones 2x10 cabs in the classifieds sure are sexy . I think I’m leaning toward an Aguilar GS112 - keep it all Aggie and easy to find another GS112 for a good price later. Do you think I’ll notice significant volume loss running a 112 at 8ohms with the TH500?
I think you will soon have some flexibility. Don't need a lot of volume, bring a single 112. Need more than a single 12 can safely deliver, bring the 1x15. Need more than the 1x15? Bring a pair of 112s. need more than a pair of 112s? Get a pair of 212s or a pair of 410s. Need more than a pair of 410s? Then it's time to tell everyone to turn it down or you don't play. I personally won't ever bring more than a pair of 212s to any gig. Usually I get by just fine with a single 8 ohm 212.
Yes, I own this rig. Tonehammer puts out 250 watts @8 ohms. And, more importantly, you lose 50% of your speaker surface. When I got the 2nd GS112, I was amazed at the increase in volume and presence. It's significant.
Disagree. This sounds like the oft-reputed myth that you need 15s for lows and 10s for mids and highs, with 12s (or a combination of 10s and 15s) being some sort of compromise. The only meaningful correlation between speaker size and sound is that, all other things equal, bigger speakers will generally sound louder than smaller ones. Consequently, a pair of 2x10s or 1x15s is likely to be louder (again, all other things equal) than a pair of 1x12s.
Actually, my experience has been the opposite of the oft-reputed myth. I find Markbass 10" cabs to sound incredibly dark and focused while their 15" cabs sound more mid present and project their sound more openly. This is also true of TC Electronic cabs. I also find that how cabs disperse the sound has a huge effect on how they sound overall. A 2x10 cab will sound great while I am right in front of it at ear level, but not so great when 10 feet away. 15" cabs sound better at 10 feet away than at ear level. 2x12" cabs just seem to sound good at any distance.
With your price range of 300 - 650, you could possibly find two of the same cabs, used, for around the 650 end of your price range. Just something to consider instead of buying something now and then hunting one down later on down the road.
I run my TH500 through a couple of Berg neo cabs, a CN112 and CN210. They pair very nicely w similar power handling and sensitivity. I started with the 112 and have played many gigs with it. Added the 210 a few years back and I find I prefer it, cuts through the mix well. The two give me three great options. I did worry about finding a 210 cab that matched but then lucked out in the TB classifieds.
Sadly, I'm of the opinion that ya gotta try 'em to see what you like. Good Amps are like a Good Wine: Red with Beef, White with Fish ... but WHICH White with WHICH Fish really does matter.
My main rig for a few years was a GS112 and a 500W head. It covered pretty much everything I needed (we play mainly small/medium venues with PA support as needed). I don't think you could go wrong with adding another GS112, and you can usually find a handful on the used market. They sound great and are built to last, but you already know that. The only reason I didn't keep my GS112 and add a second one is bc I found a killer deal on an Epifani 4 ohm 210 UL. I was looking for a one-carry cab solution that would handle some extra juice (from an EBS Reidmar 750) and it definitely fits the bill. Couldn't go wrong with that one either!