12" cabs

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by brandinstroy, Nov 28, 2001.

  1. brandinstroy

    brandinstroy

    Feb 21, 2001
    Colorado Springs, CO
    I Support the following: Fodera, Noble Amps, JHAudio, Trickfish Amplification
    I am in the market for new cabs. I am very interested in the 12" cabs. Have any of you compared the aguilar 12, the bergantino 12, and the Epifani 12?

    If so i would like to know what the outcome was.
    I am getting the new Aguilar DB750. Now I am looking for new cabs.
     
  2. Dolan

    Dolan

    May 23, 2000
    Vienna Md
    Dont know about the other's but, I have an Aguilar GS 112 and it's sweet. Will be adding another soon.
     
  3. dplayers1

    dplayers1

    Nov 18, 2001
    Im thinkin about getting a 12. What type gigs do you guys use them for? How many watts are you pushin them with?
     
  4. I really like the Bergantino - it's the best combination of the Aguilar's punchiness and the Epifani's silkiness. The Aguilar is good, but I found it to be too "boxy" for DB and the EB performance was solid but didn't dazzle me. The Epifani was very, very smooth, but the tweeter sounded a little too hissy for me. I was worried that I would break the Epi - it just didn't feel like it would stand up to serious EB pounding.

    The Bergantino is smooth, doesn't sound "boxy", and sounds punchy enough to stand up to an electric B string. I really like the Berg :)
     
  5. blamkin

    blamkin

    Nov 28, 2001
    Broomfield, Co
    I'm interested in the replies too...

    Especially the EA vs berg cabs...

    The ones I know of are:

    Aguilar GS112, List $499
    Berg HT112, List $749
    Euphonic Audio CXL112, List $795
    Eden uh... CXM 112, List $470
    (odd -- no 112XLT, but there is a 212XLT.)
     
  6. ThunderStik

    ThunderStik Guest

    Jun 25, 2001
    Claremore OK.
    I didnt care for the ag 1-12 it just seemed weak on the bottom a little. I have yet to hear the berg but I do have the berg 2-12 and it one mean ass cab.
     
  7. Could you expand on the "boxy"? Not quite sure what you mean.
     
  8. Sorry for being obscure. By "boxy" I mean that the sound didn't bloom out into the room. It sounded constricted or constrained and/or colored by the speaker's enclosure.

    The best parallel I can recall is in super hi-fi home audio. If you close your eyes and concentrate, you can't even tell that there are two speakers in front of you - it sounds like the musician(s) are in the room! I strive for a somewhat similar effect - I want to hear the natural, open, uncongested sound of the instrument uncolored by the speaker enclosure. I felt as though I "heard" the box when auditioning the Aguilar.

    I hope I haven't made my initial description more obscure and odd, but that's how I look at it.
     
  9. Thanks, that helps. So it's kind of the opposite of an "open" sound? I note from your profile (and from a thread on the DB side) that you've got a contra. That's the most open sounding small cab I've played yet. Even the Berg sounds a tiny bit compressed in comparison (to my ears). It will be interesting to see how the EA 12 turns out.
     
  10. daveemac

    daveemac

    Dec 6, 2001
    SF, CA
    Just got my aguilar gs112 in the mail. I saw this thread and wanted to reply.

    Do other people agree that the contra has an "open" sound? To me it is unbearably congested and stuffy sounding. I really wanted to like it, but I've auditioned it twice in the last couple years and just couldn't make myself like it. It sounds ok at low volumes (as do many rigs) but once it got a little loud it sounded really inhibited to me. I haven't had a chance to gig with my Clarus/GS112 setup yet, but perhaps I will report after I do.

    Happy New Year.