I have a peavey 1516 and I have only been using the 15 BW in it and I love the tone I am getting out of it but today at practice the speaker was farting out at moderate volumes. Granted I play bass heavy but its not muddy or anything like that anything on the low B was almost use less. Now I am looking for something else. Ive gone through 10"s to 18"s and now I am looking for something that will give good low end, I mean feel it as well as hear it, be pretty cheap under 250 if possible. I have thoguh about an avatar 212 or mybe eventually two of them. Just looking for some ideas.