$1500 for new cabs: Choices, choices...

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by steers b-c, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. steers b-c

    steers b-c Guest

    Aug 23, 2005
    Austin, Texas
    Alrighty, I'm interested to hear your suggestions as for new cabs. I'm redoing my rig after its last, and hopefully final, flameout. So far, here's what I've worked out.

    American Standard Jazz > Line 6 M13 > Tronographic Rusty Box (running in preamp mode) > Crown CA 9 > Who knows??

    At the moment, I'm looking at ordering a bass customized 2x15 and a 4x12 from Emperor Cabinets, but I'd like to hear some other ideas.

    As for style, well, my old band's myspace has some indications, but I'm really looking for versatility.

    A basic sense of where I'm at in the process:

    I need quite a bit of speaker area. I do brutal stuff (noise loops, feedback loops, extreme pitchshifting) to my cabs, and it's become apparent that trying to jam all that into a small number of speakers is a BAD idea.

    I don't really care too much about portability...I should be able to fit pretty much anything into my Escape with the seats down, and we're already gonna be stuck renting a Uhaul truck when we play live.

    I don't care about weight. I know how to use a hand truck and how to lift with my legs.

    I'm more interested in things that are less than obvious. I know about Ampeg 8x10s and Mesa Powerhouses...talk to me about Acme, LDS, and other cab makers that are off the beaten path. Those are the ones I can't really try out, so I'd love to hear what their users have to say about them.

    $1500 is not set in stone, but it's a pretty good guideline.

    Thanks a ton for your help, and I hope all is well with ya'll.
  2. Gearhead17

    Gearhead17 Supporting Member

    May 4, 2006
    Mount Prospect, IL
    I like your approach to large & HEAVY gear. It's refreshing to hear someone say they can actually lift their speakers and not complain about 90lbs being too much for a speaker cab. No offense to you lightweight speaker/amp lovers! I just prefer the heavy stuff.

    The key here is - are you playing at venues with PA systems, or is it on you to do everything sound wise? If you are dealing with PA systems and sound guys - showing up with a 215 and 412 bass rig and expecting to turn it loud on stage will end in disaster. You will be much too loud on stage. If you are doing the sound yourself - two big cabs will do definitely be needed.

    I will let others chime in about what to really try out. I don't have experience with many cabs unfortunately.
  3. Blues Bass 2

    Blues Bass 2 Supporting Member

    Oct 3, 2001
    Davenport Iowa
    I'd check out Dr Bass cabinets. I use them and lots of other TBers use them and they work great. They take a lot of punishment and don't break up or break down. They have a 610 and a 412 cab that might be just what you are looking for. The only downside is they custom build them and it takes a while to get your cab. Check them out.
  4. steers b-c

    steers b-c Guest

    Aug 23, 2005
    Austin, Texas
    Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the light stuff, it just doesn't work in my settings. I have to lift heavy stuff for work all the time, it's not something I can be too concerned about.

    As for your question with the PA...there will be times where I'll have support, and others where I won't. I'll generally be playing venues that expect loud bands, so I don't anticipate too many problems, and I also don't expect to make this punishingly loud. The number of speakers is mainly to spread the pain around rather than concentrate it all on just a few cones. Thanks for chiming in!
  5. Since weight is not an issue, and you are using the CA9, one idea is to pick up one of the Bergantino HT322's that pop up regularly in the classifies on this site (or two if you need crazy, out of your mind volume).

    These cabs are ball busters at around 100 pounds (and it's a 'heavy' feeling 100 pounds). However, they are a bit like playing out of a large PA type speaker, and just LOVE lot's of power. They are very clean, crisp, with deep, deep low end, and are a nice platform for effects, etc.

    You could easily get two used ones for $1,500.

  6. Subscribed; always interested to hear about cabs I can't A/B in person. The Dr. Bass stuff does look interesting - from looking at specs - the full sized traditional/DEEP cabinets (17.5" vice 15" deep) look like they'd do it. Have you already gone through the Accugroove Bill Dickens cabs?
  7. PSPookie


    Aug 13, 2006
    Albuquerque, NM
    Dr. Bass
    Bergantino NV
  8. Kingkananga

    Kingkananga Guest

    Jan 5, 2009
    talk to jeff at MatAmp, its a shame you aint in the UK because that place is like some amazing lil workshop that you just dont come across.


    there straightalking and incredibly helpful, plus they have built amps and cabinets for the best since like a million years ago (ok yes im exagerrating) and they invented orange amps before anyone knew what the hell was going on.

    even if you dont intend on getting one they are just the best people to talk to and will build you exactly what you want and will tell you if they think you are an idiot!

    if you dont know anything about matamp google em or get some history on wikipedia, legends.
  9. renejaime


    May 25, 2005
    +1 the HT322 can dish out a lot. My current rig is a DB750>HT322 I used that with a group that was stupid loud and I was covering bass/synth bass and loops and using my rig as stage monitor two HT322s would be jaw dropping...

    ps: I didn't notice you are in Austin... grr, in a frenzy I was trying to sell my cab last month because I thought I wouldn't have enough room in my new car, turns out it fits like a glove so I decided not to sell it. PM me if you wanna try out the cab... who knows maybe a couple of shots and some loose talk you can convince me to sell it... haha
  10. Steve


    Aug 10, 2001
    I have a 322 and a 212 that occaisionally get used at the same time if I'm outside with weak PA.

    That set up is so painfully, punishingly, stupid loud it's not even funny. If those two boxes can't get it done, nothing can.
  11. For maximum speaker area I'm thinking you'll probably end up with 10's or 12's; honestly I think the best option I've heard so far is your original Emperor 2x15 + 4x12, I can't see how you could go wrong with that setup. Paired with some heavy duty speakers (maybe PA use?) it should hopefully last you a good long while.

    Glad to hear you're still doing something, I'm a huge fan of the last SteerS album, I look forward to hearing new stuff.
  12. Mystic Michael

    Mystic Michael Hip No Ties

    Apr 1, 2004
    New York, NY
    Two Dr. Bass 4x12 cabs. Or four Dr. Bass 1580 cabs. In which case, you might need two CA9s! :eek:

  13. lowendblues

    lowendblues Supporting Member

    Oct 8, 2004
  14. I don't think the Avatar's are going to cut it here. I've owned several, and while they are good cabs, they are not, IMHO, going to stand up to the tasks the OP requires.