1982 Fender Jazz Bass - U.S. Reissue

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by gspiggott67, Apr 13, 2012.

  1. gspiggott67

    gspiggott67 Guest

    Apr 13, 2012
    Hi everyone,

    I am wondering if anyone could help me identify a bass. I am told it is a 1982 US Reissue Jazz bass, and the body does have a "V114***" serial number. It does not have stacked knobs, rather the 3 knob configuration. I have read that it could be a US built for export where sometimes they would change the knobs, but the tuners look like nothing I have seen before, and doesn't seem to match the era (or anything I have seen). Can anyone shed some light on this? The owner has assured me it is all original, and no modifications have been made.

    Thanks
    GS
     

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  2. jbiscuti

    jbiscuti

    Dec 22, 2007
    NYC / LA
    Endorsing Artist: Grolsch Strap Locks
    Can you post some more photos?
     
  3. Oldtimer

    Oldtimer Supporting Member

    May 4, 2002
    New Mexico
    Pic is really from too far away, but from a distance it looks like Fender Japan tuners. Definitely not Fender AVRI '82.
     
  4. Johnny Alien

    Johnny Alien Supporting Member

    Jan 24, 2003
    Harrisburg, PA, USA
    V11 would not be accurate for that early of a reissue. Beyond that those are defintely some sort of import tuners. There doesn't look to be a gloss finish of any kind (it looks to be satin) so that excludes it from even being an import reissue. So if that's the case than the neckplate with SN is a fake or was added which would make anything else on the bass questionable and the seller a liar. I would stay away from it.
     
  5. Spinal Tapper

    Spinal Tapper

    Nov 15, 2007
    Chicago
    No way. Either the owner thinks that is real and you might have to break the bad news to him, or he's trying to rip you off.

    Tuners WRONG, finish WRONG, controls WRONG. That'd be enough evidence for me to pass
     
  6. gspiggott67

    gspiggott67 Guest

    Apr 13, 2012
    Here are some more pics
     

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  7. gspiggott67

    gspiggott67 Guest

    Apr 13, 2012
    Yet more....
     

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  8. gspiggott67

    gspiggott67 Guest

    Apr 13, 2012
    And more still....
     

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  9. alembicguy

    alembicguy I roam the earth and I know things Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2007
    Minnesota
    Here's the headstock of my 82 reissue

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  10. Spinal Tapper

    Spinal Tapper

    Nov 15, 2007
    Chicago
    Neck pocket curve doesn't look quite right...it looks kinda of flat, right? Might not even be a fender.


    What's the seller asking?
     
  11. alembicguy

    alembicguy I roam the earth and I know things Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2007
    Minnesota
    Anybody notice in the front pic of the bass the neck has one too many frets?
    It's not a Fender neck.
     
  12. Spinal Tapper

    Spinal Tapper

    Nov 15, 2007
    Chicago
    Truss rod access is also at the headstock - WRONG for a 62RI. This thing is an epic fail.
     
  13. mikeswals

    mikeswals Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Seattle / Tacoma
    Noooooo! it's a fake!

    That is not even a real Fender bass. Someone stuck a repro decal on a really cheap Jazz copy.
     
  14. That serial number is 10 years too late for it to be an '82. Should be V00.

    I don't see any tint in the neck lacquer, which is wrong for early-90s AV reissue as the serial number seems to suggest it is.

    21 frets is wrong.

    The contour of the neck behind the nut is wrong for AV.

    Tuners are wrong.

    Body finish looks like poly, not nitro. Also wrong.

    The cutaway is wrong, with no telltale router hump.

    No grounding strip between bridge and bridge pickup. Also wrong.

    What do you guys think? MIM?
     
  15. gspiggott67

    gspiggott67 Guest

    Apr 13, 2012
    Thanks for the feedback, guys. I was suspicious about this one, but I'm not as familiar with Fender vintage basses. The seller doesn't really seem to know a lot about it, but the ad says 'original owner'. Surely that person can shed some light on it...but I don't expect to hear back on this.
     
  16. gigslut

    gigslut

    Dec 13, 2011
    St Louis, Mo
    Conveniently ...

    No, they don't waste time trying to fool the educated, they just keep looking for a sucker.

    Buyers must be extra vigilant these days. I've noticed an increase in fakes lately on various forums. Must have something to do with the economy. Desperation tends to erode integrity.
     
  17. gigslut

    gigslut

    Dec 13, 2011
    St Louis, Mo
    All of the above, plus ... gigbag? Where's the case? Who buys an AVRI and sells off the case so they can tote it around in a $15 gigbag? Also, the bridge is wrong.
     
  18. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism

    Too many frets = fraud, not even a MIM.

    I personally think it is a MIM knock-off (!!??!!), the guy or a previous owner put a Fender decal on it. The tuners and headstock scream Mexicano.

    No buy.
     
  19. alembicguy

    alembicguy I roam the earth and I know things Gold Supporting Member

    Jan 28, 2007
    Minnesota
    Well it had to be done at the factory cause that's where it came from to me.

    I purchased the 1962 AV stack knob reissue from a friend who was a Fender dealer at the time back in 1982 and it was ordered from Fender. When it arrived it was still in the shipping package from Fender,I opened it up direct from Fender so if there seems to be a discrepancy with the logo it would purely be Fenders error.