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1x15 louder than 2x10?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by semborg, May 9, 2005.


  1. Is generally 1x15 cabs louder than 2x10?
     
  2. NoNoise

    NoNoise Supporting Member

    Mar 5, 2005
    New Jersey
    In my experience, they are not really different, but there are so many factors. Also, I will not claim to have many years of experience or be a professional of any kind.
     
  3. Ben Clarke

    Ben Clarke Liquidating to fund a new business. Buy My Gear!

    Jan 6, 2005
    Western NY
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    Depends.
     
  4. Lowtonejoe

    Lowtonejoe Supporting Member

    Jul 3, 2004
    Richland, WA
    Generally, yes. A 115 is louder.

    Specifically? Well all kinds of things come into play like efficiency and frequency response.

    And there are more, like the inclusion of tweeters and crossovers.

    But generally, yes. You have more cone surface to push air.

    :D

    Joe.
     
  5. konfishily

    konfishily

    Jan 24, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY
    Larger speakers generally travel further. I think the 10's sound louder closer up and the 15s are generally louder further away.
     
  6. NoNoise

    NoNoise Supporting Member

    Mar 5, 2005
    New Jersey
    Very good point and very correct!
     
  7. billfitzmaurice

    billfitzmaurice Commercial User

    Sep 15, 2004
    New Hampshire
    Owner, Bill Fitzmaurice Loudspeaker Design
    'Loudness' depends on sensivity, power handling. frequency response, excursion capacity (Xmax) and a few other factors. The cone size and the number of drivers alone doesn't particularly matter.
     
  8. Ben Clarke

    Ben Clarke Liquidating to fund a new business. Buy My Gear!

    Jan 6, 2005
    Western NY
    I've got a couple 1x10"s that do OK!
     
  9. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    The Eden D-210XLT is a 350-watt cabinet with a sensitivity of 103dB (1W/1m). Their D-115XLT is 450 watts with a sensitivity of 100 db (1W/1m). The D-210XST is 450 watts at 103 dB sensitivity. I'd bet either 210 is louder than the 115.

    Of course, this is one manufacturer, and anecdotal. So believe it or don't. But just stay away from those 15s.
     
  10. Steve

    Steve

    Aug 10, 2001
    and....you would lose. I have a 210xlt and a 115xlt.....

    The 115 kills the 210. The 210 will get louder faster but before it's over....the 115 is clearly a step ahead.

    What did I win?
     
  11. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    A weekend in Detroit. Second prize was two weekends in Detroit.

    You know, now that you mention it, I own both of those cabs, too. (Don't rat me out about the 15.) I guess I'll just have to bridge the ol' WT-800 into each one and have my own little mini-shootout.
     
  12. 15's are definatly louder. I played a few practices with my Fender Bassman 400 350watt 2x10 combo, and ended up using the 200 watt 1x15 bassman combo that was there because it blew mine away.
     
  13. FIFTEENS OWN, BIATCH!!
     
  14. Steve

    Steve

    Aug 10, 2001
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    I lived in Highland Park.....I lived in Inkster....Clio......Lived next to a mushroom farm in Southfield (if you have a chance to do that, skip it.).....Birch Run.....Frankenmuth......

    Whats third prize?
     
  15. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Total Hyper-Elite Member Gold Supporting Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    LOL.
     
  16. Steve

    Steve

    Aug 10, 2001
    Funny, this whole subject of 15's.....

    I've been using mostly tens for.....dang...15 years?

    I keep running into this old sun 2x15 cabinet thats loaded with JBL K-140's (The grey basket's with the alnico magnets?)....

    That beat up old box just flat out kicks butt.
    I keep asking myself why I don't own one of those things.
     
  17. Suburban

    Suburban

    Jan 15, 2001
    lower mid Sweden
    It's about moving air = it's about surface. Front surface, not cone surface.

    2x10 is 34% more surface than 1x15. Get the point?
     
  18. lbanks

    lbanks

    Jul 17, 2003
    Ennui, IN USA
    Well, I've got a Basson 1x15 that just overwhelms my Hartke 4.5XL. YMMV.
     
  19. this is incorrect: surface moved is about the same.
     
  20. BassyBill

    BassyBill The smooth moderator... Staff Member Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 12, 2005
    West Midlands UK
    And what sort of "loud" do you like? My experience with 2x10s is that they can get loud, but they won't give you the real warm and full sound down low that you get from a 15.

    There's certainly more to the sound of a cab than you can work out from sensitivity and power handling figures. A full frequency response plot would be more useful, maybe - I don't think most manufacturers publish these. How about frequency ranges within limits, eg, 35-15000 Hz +/- 3dB? Anybody see this sort of data from any builders?