210/115 or 210/210

I run an Avatar 210 Pro with a SB112 puched by an Eden WT-800 running stereo and have no problems shaking the kidneys of all in a 300 seat room. I use this combo for most every style, 4/5/6 string fretted/fretless basses, and also with an Azola BugBassII both arco and Pizz. Depending on the song, I adjust the balance slightly between the two cabs - the Azola gets more of the 112, and a slap heavy song gets a little more of the 210.

With the 112, the low frequencies that go out are usable frequencies that don't clog the room with unfocused sub - exactly what a 115 would get you. Sure a 115 sounds fuller when you're only 10 feet (3 meters) away from it ... but it's the sound in the room that counts.

All the best,

R

 

Good 1x15 cabs do not sound muddy, they sound fat and punchy. I tried a 2x12 with my 4x10 cab (both Aguilar) to add low end, and it really does not do the job as well as a 15. The 12s sound good in their own way, and offer lots of output while being fairly compact and light. I suggest you find somewhere to go demo a few cabs and see what lights your fire.

Any of 2x12, 2x12, 1x15 will help, and they'll all sound different.

 

amen bro, amen.

it's absolutley impossible for us to tell you what you'll like best. i've used just about every combination possible, and i've found something to liek about all of them. Of course, brand of cab makes a huge difference too. FWI, often adding a second 210 increases your apparent bass response.

 

I use my Avatar 210 with either a 212 or a SB112. Both the 112 and the 212 are great stand alones. This set up is pretty versital for me. I don't have much use for a 115 by itself.

Good luck.

 

+1

I have the Madison 115 cab. The 15 is good quality and not muddy, but doesn't play low either. It's a mid driver that matches up well with their 410. But as a standalone cab it doesn't cut it. Even with a 4 string you lose volume on the low notes.

This seems to be a trend in speaker building, everybody wants low playing 10's and un-muddy 15's. So newer 15's have no bottom anymore, and 10's have no highs without a tweeter.

My Carvin PS15C is a much better standalone driver than the Madison. EV is a sure bet. But I'll take the old Altec 418B's I smoked if I can ever find another pair.

P.S. almost forgot...! For BEAD tuning, you're asking a lot from either of those cabs. That's 18 territory. If you really want a 115 or 212, look for a big box with lower freq response - for example the new Carvin BRX. A compact cab won't get you there. Good luck...

 

Definately not 18 territory, I play in AEADG and GDADG with a 2x10 right now, looking to get either a 4x10 or 6x10 instead.

 

Ive got the Avatar 2x10 neo (300w x 2)and a Steel Sound Eminence 1x15Lf Delta cab (500w x 1), they pair up nicely, the 15 definently is not muddy, moves air, i think for the $ they are as clear and loud as youll find anywhere, with no real cabinet coloring at all, IMHO. Oh, light weight too.

-mike